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I love the left i really do.
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Trump taking credit for Barrys work.
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I'm no lefty mate, there in lies the problem. Folk eager to pigeon hole people. Both sides of politics and those that get upset about either are all equally destructive and stupid.Originally posted by Kevin Mcleod View PostTrump taking credit for Barrys work.
I love the left i really do.
However Trumpy is taking credit for many of Obama's actions. If only because much of what he wants to do or has signed off on takes time to implement. So yeah it's just fact rather than opinion. I'm not saying everything going on now is Obama's doing, Trump is undoing alot of what 'Barry' put in place.
I think Trumpy is a jerk, but he might be exactly what that country needs, time will tell.
Trump's successful push for income and corporate tax cuts and his steps to loosen regulations have helped drive a surging stock market rally fueled by the prospect of higher corporate profits. And most economists are optimistic that growth will continue at a solid pace this year.
"We have created more than 2 million new jobs since the election," Trump said last week in Nashville, Tennessee. "Economic growth has surged past 3 percent, something that wasn't supposed to happen for a long time. We're way ahead of schedule. Unemployment is at a 17-year low."
Those trends aren't very different from what came before. Employers added more jobs in Obama's last year in office — 2.2 million in 2016 — and nearly 3 million in 2014. Economic growth did top 3 percent at an annual rate during the second and third quarters of 2017. But it had surged above 4 percent in the second and third quarters of 2014.
The unemployment rate fell from 4.8 percent when Trump took office to 4.1 percent now. It fell by the same amount or more in 2013, 2014 and 2015.
During the presidential campaign, Trump portrayed the economy as floundering and called the unemployment rate "one of the biggest hoaxes in modern politics." Now he accepts the government's data at face value.
When the government reports growth for the October-December quarter next week, it may show the economy expanded at a 3 percent or higher annual rate for the third straight quarter. That could lift growth in 2017 to the fastest pace since it reached 2.9 percent in 2015.
Some of that growth may reflect greater spending by consumers or businesses in anticipation of tax cuts. But most economists expect it will take time for Trump's deregulatory and tax policies to have their full effect.
There's no question that businesses and consumers are more optimistic. The Conference Board's consumer confidence index jumped to a 17-year high in November before slipping a bit last month.
That hasn't yet resulted in more Americans opening their wallets, though. Spending growth in the first nine months of 2017 was slightly slower than in the previous year.
Some economists are growing skeptical of consumer sentiment surveys because the responses seem increasingly skewed by political leanings. People in counties that voted for Trump reported a much brighter outlook on the economy after the election than did people in Clinton counties, according to a report by the Federal Reserve Bank of New York.
People in Trump-voting counties were much more likely just after the election to say their financial situation had improved in the past year, the New York Fed said, long before any of Trump's policies were in place. But the change in sentiment didn't produce changes in consumer spending, the report said.
"It does somewhat undermine the message from the confidence surveys," said Jim O'Sullivan, chief U.S. economist at High Frequency Economics.
American companies have stepped up their investments in machinery, software, and office towers this year after sluggish spending in 2015 and 2016. Such spending increased about 6.2 percent at an annual rate in the first nine months of the year.
Still, business investment topped 9 percent in the first three quarters of 2014.
In both cases, rising oil prices played an outsized role in spurring more corporate spending. When oil prices increase, drilling firms tend to buy more steel pipe and other goods that are used in drilling rigs.
Dean Baker, an economist at the Center for Economic and Policy Research, points out that when mining and oil and gas are excluded, investment spending has increased an anemic 3.3 percent this year.
Many economists expect growth to perk up in 2018, with the impact of tax cuts and the Trump administration's deregulatory efforts spurring corporate investment and consumer spending. So far, 15 regulations that were put in place by the Obama administration have been overturned by Congress. The administration has put dozens of others on hold.
"There's just generally the feeling that there's more pro-growth policy coming from Washington," O'Sullivan said.
O'Sullivan forecasts that growth will reach 2.8 percent for all of this year, roughly in line with other projections.
"2017 was largely an Obama economy," Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Analytics, said. "But going forward it will definitely be a Trump economy." -
Good post mate. We should take intto non qpr theres a thread there i think.Comment
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Donald Trump. Leg End or Bell End?
Absolute legend for me and the best president or person in charge of any country ive ever witnessed.
He really does care about his own country and wants to make it great again for every creed and colour.
In fact he even cares more about our country than Theresa May does imo.
Cant do pics on here for some reason, but there are two in this tweet that show the americans really are starting to believe. (Ignore whos tweet if you dont like her, its for the polls)
I look forward to Trump’s success being widely reported in the Islamic Republic of Britain & Khan’s Londonistan *raises right eyebrow* #SOTU##MAGA https://t.co/cb6d5cNz1G
P.S could a mod bring please bring me and toppers posts from this thread below to this one please.
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Consumer confidence is at a 17-year high. Unemployment is at a 17-year low. Dow Jones increased by 5,000 points in one year for the first time in its 121-year history.
All Barrys work?Comment
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People say he's in it for the money but I couldn't disagree more. He's 70+ and a multi billionaire. He could've made far more by staying in the shadows - instead, his entire private life going back years is exposed on a daily basis.
I think he genuinely loves his country and is very one track minded in reaching his goal - doesn't care who he offends or what comes out. He just gets on with it.Comment
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Hes doing it totally for free isnt he mate?Comment
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Yes he pledged to donate his 400k salary and he has been. The press doesn't report this obviously. His first quarter salary he donated to the National Park Services, second to the Department of Education and third to a charity to fight opioid addiction. His detractors say "he's a billionaire, is that it"...Comment
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If he can pull off the outing of the deep state cabal that runs (or did run) America, and the Clinton/Bush mafia families (and all their secret society shenanigans), if he can expose what's really been going on in the name of 'freedom and democracy', it will be the coup of the century. Currently it looks 50/50 whether this will happen or not. If anyone's been following all this, they'll know what I mean - and how 'releasing the memo' will be a key moment.
What I find incredible, as a naturally left-leaning person from childhood to modern day revulsion at what the self-aggrandising Tories get up to, is how severely the socialist/leftist agenda has been co-opted by a so-called liberal media, controlled by a so-called liberal elite, personified by Hillary Clinton. I think many people who believe they are left wing or liberal have very good-minded intentions, but they are being duped into supporting programmes that have nothing to do with true socialism or 'fairness'. Under the aegis of power-terms like racism and sexism a heinous form of social engineering is being enacted that is all about suppressing true freedom and freedom of speech. And by true freedom I mean the freedom to be who you are and say whatever you want to say - no matter what that is. Ironically, in supposedly supporting the 'freedom' of modern tropes like trans-sexualism, swathes of people and entire group identities are being stigmatised and legislated against.
To be honest, I'm not sure what truly underlies this agenda, other than that is a smokescreen for criminal organisations like the Clinton foundation to get away with murder. But I do know, that as a man, the right to be a man, proudly and unashamedly is under attack. Similarly, as a white man, I am automatically assumed to be part of some kind of oppressive patriarchy, and therefore 'wrong' by default. This kind of thinking is frighteningly similar to George Orwell's novel 1984's idea of 'Groupthink'.
A fantastic example of what I am talking about here is exemplified by Cathy Newman's interview of Jordan Peterson. Everything I'm talking about is contained in this interview - the brilliance and clarity of Peterson's analysis of society versus the deeply brainwashed responses of Newman. Seriously, if you haven't seen it, it will blow your mind. Watch and learn folks:
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I would love them to release the memo and I agree with everything you posted.
Poor Cathy Newman - respected journalist, now destined to live out her days as a meme
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Top posts.
#ReleaseTheMemoComment
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Sorry to link her again, but she does tweet the best clips. This one is actually jawdropping.
Lowest ever black unemployment and look at those black faces of power.
Its as if it burns, its as of they are disgusted with poor black people being better off.
Lowest black unemployment rate EVER. Just watch the reaction of those who depend on victim status for support. #SOTU https://t.co/XRPxYYITopComment
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Could a mod please move the trump obama stuff to here.
Thanks very much in advance. Mwah.
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He's obviously not everyone's cup of tea, but oh my goodness, what I'd give for us to have a leader who fought for the country like he does. He says it like it is, despite the howling of the easily offended brigade.
Watch and learn Theresa. About time you started getting tough with people.Comment
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