Oh gawd. Cue another wave of "we told you so, look what sort of ##### made you vote out" blah blah blah, from the far more intelligent but anti democratic club.
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What's this, a preemptive post just in case???!! What are you worried about? People thinking you're foolish for supporting Farage?
No anti-democrat here, but I'm not fond of the farce that is the US election. What a bogus choice: either the rampant loon that is Trump or the vile establishment lackey that is Clinton. IMO it's a set-up. I read long before Trump was even nominated that he was going to be a stalking horse to ensure the extremely unpopular Clinton's presidency. The article I read (it was in Zero Hedge I think), went on to say that Trump would come out with increasingly absurd and bizarre ideas that would make him almost unelectable, yet still appeal to those fond of dog-whistle politics (i.e the uneducated, mainly). Given that the establishment/Military-Industrial complex ( cf Dwight Eisenhower) wouldn't allow an actual free and genuinely democratic vote, it seems highly plausible.
And since Nigel shrugged off the leadership role straight after Brexit and immediately cosied up to Murdoch, we can safely assume he's part of the establishment too.
There are alternatives to Clinton and Trump in the US election, Jill Stein for the Greens and Gary Johnson for the Libertarians, but you'd never know it. The whole thing is a whitewash. Farage supporting Trump is just more of the same farce. And for the record, I am very glad we Brexitted (or at least voted for it).
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Originally posted by Hubble View PostWhat's this, a preemptive post just in case???!! What are you worried about? People thinking you're foolish for supporting Farage?
No anti-democrat here, but I'm not fond of the farce that is the US election. What a bogus choice: either the rampant loon that is Trump or the vile establishment lackey that is Clinton. IMO it's a set-up. I read long before Trump was even nominated that he was going to be a stalking horse to ensure the extremely unpopular Clinton's presidency. The article I read (it was in Zero Hedge I think), went on to say that Trump would come out with increasingly absurd and bizarre ideas that would make him almost unelectable, yet still appeal to those fond of dog-whistle politics (i.e the uneducated, mainly). Given that the establishment/Military-Industrial complex ( cf Dwight Eisenhower) wouldn't allow an actual free and genuinely democratic vote, it seems highly plausible.
And since Nigel shrugged off the leadership role straight after Brexit and immediately cosied up to Murdoch, we can safely assume he's part of the establishment too.
There are alternatives to Clinton and Trump in the US election, Jill Stein for the Greens and Gary Johnson for the Libertarians, but you'd never know it. The whole thing is a whitewash. Farage supporting Trump is just more of the same farce. And for the record, I am very glad we Brexitted (or at least voted for it).
For the record I've never voted for Farage. I was just pointing out that some would get on their high horse about it and start the whole "those who voted out are fools etc etc"“He'll regret it till his dying day, if ever he lives that long”
Will Danaher
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Originally posted by Itsonlyagame View PostCalm down Sir, is the heat getting to you
For the record I've never voted for Farage. I was just pointing out that some would get on their high horse about it and start the whole "those who voted out are fools etc etc"
Out of interest, what do you think of the idea that Trump is a stooge to get Clinton elected?
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Originally posted by Itsonlyagame View PostOh gawd. Cue another wave of "we told you so, look what sort of ##### made you vote out" blah blah blah, from the far more intelligent but anti democratic club.
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Originally posted by Hubble View PostSorry mate, didn't mean to sound intemperate! I take your point, broadly, but I don't think there are any on here who would think that.
Out of interest, what do you think of the idea that Trump is a stooge to get Clinton elected?
Regarding your question, being the simplistic ( some would say simple ) man that I am, I haven't given it much thought.
There is nearly always an alternative viewpoint to what's going on in the world, especially politically, but I tend to take things at face value. Don't get me wrong, if somebody came knocking on my door telling me there were some tiles missing from my roof which they could replace, I'd send them packing. I suppose it's a case of "que sera sera" Can I change what's going on across the pond, not really, so I allow myself to sweat about the things which I think I can affect. That doesn't mean to say I don't respect anybody who wants to look further into the "bigger picture" Its just not for me.“He'll regret it till his dying day, if ever he lives that long”
Will Danaher
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Originally posted by Hubble View PostWhat's this, a preemptive post just in case???!! What are you worried about? People thinking you're foolish for supporting Farage?
No anti-democrat here, but I'm not fond of the farce that is the US election. What a bogus choice: either the rampant loon that is Trump or the vile establishment lackey that is Clinton. IMO it's a set-up. I read long before Trump was even nominated that he was going to be a stalking horse to ensure the extremely unpopular Clinton's presidency. The article I read (it was in Zero Hedge I think), went on to say that Trump would come out with increasingly absurd and bizarre ideas that would make him almost unelectable, yet still appeal to those fond of dog-whistle politics (i.e the uneducated, mainly). Given that the establishment/Military-Industrial complex ( cf Dwight Eisenhower) wouldn't allow an actual free and genuinely democratic vote, it seems highly plausible.
And since Nigel shrugged off the leadership role straight after Brexit and immediately cosied up to Murdoch, we can safely assume he's part of the establishment too.
There are alternatives to Clinton and Trump in the US election, Jill Stein for the Greens and Gary Johnson for the Libertarians, but you'd never know it. The whole thing is a whitewash. Farage supporting Trump is just more of the same farce. And for the record, I am very glad we Brexitted (or at least voted for it).
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Originally posted by Johnnykc View PostWell over it mate.....just pointing out the intellectual similarities in their support......I must away now, I can no longer tarry
This morning's tempest I have to cross
I must be guided without a stumble
Into the arms I love the most
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Originally posted by jmelanie View PostThe U.S. electorate voted for Trump because they are fed up with the establishment pure and simple. Unfortunately a number of the Republican candidates didn't put on a particularly good show. JEB didn't get elected because of the rest of his family, although he would have made a better president than either of them. Also I don't think his heart was really in it. We met him when he was governor of Florida. He came over a an extremely intelligent individual. The Floridians loved him. He would have made a good president because he was prepared to work with the Democrats. However this wasn't to be. Bernie Sanders was the anti establishment candidate for the Democrats who was too far to the left for the majority of Americans. So you are left with Trump and Clinton, both of whom nobody wants. I think the turnout in November will be very low."The kids missed everything from Queens Park Rangers to Conkers".
London Pride has been handed down to us.
London Pride is a flower that's free.
London Pride means our own dear town to us,
And our pride it for ever will be.
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Originally posted by loneranger View PostI wanted to be in fla for the elections but unfortunately I miss it. Am there mid to late October tho.I played sunday league football today.
Clearly I was the best player on the pitch.
I scored 5 and made 7 last ditch tackles.
We lost 5-0 but the rest of my team were sh it!
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