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Originally posted by Ramsey is god View Poston my point on the labour workers side of it was more - if you want to be paid more, learn a skill that is obscure and not everyone can do - just didnt want to quite word it like that. The answer isnt, kick the eastern Europeans out, then we can bump the prices back up.
The problem with your proposal is most bricklayers, plumbers etc aren't in a position to retrain as lawyers and teachers. For one retraining takes an awful lot of time and money and on top of that an academic background. I don't know many brickies who have a degree, or even a handful of 'O'levels ( giving away my age there )
However, if all of those people were suddenly able to take up positions in the "obscure" jobs, I wonder what the reaction would be from the people already doing those jobs once they realised there was a surplus of labour in their field, thus adversely affecting their wages ?
Funnily enough your actually proving the point I made in my earlier post which you disagreed with, that your average middle class white collar worker doesn't care about immigration because it doesn't affect them negatively.“He'll regret it till his dying day, if ever he lives that long”
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Originally posted by Ramsey is god View Poston my point on the labour workers side of it was more - if you want to be paid more, learn a skill that is obscure and not everyone can do - just didnt want to quite word it like that. The answer isnt, kick the eastern Europeans out, then we can bump the prices back up.
You really should take the time to read people's posts properly before you decide to disagree with them.“He'll regret it till his dying day, if ever he lives that long”
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Originally posted by Itsonlyagame View PostAnd yet again you've twisted people's words. Nobody on here, including myself, has said we want anybody kicked out.
You really should take the time to read people's posts properly before you decide to disagree with them.
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Originally posted by Ramsey is god View Postso people complaining that eastern European people are coming in and driving down the price on labour work, so they want to vote out..... How does what i said not summarize that?
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Originally posted by Ramsey is god View Postso people complaining that eastern European people are coming in and driving down the price on labour work, so they want to vote out..... How does what i said not summarize that?
Nobody here has suggested "kicking Eastern Europeans out" and no mainstream government would do it anyway, even if we left the EU.
So no, what you said doesn't summarise it, far from it.“He'll regret it till his dying day, if ever he lives that long”
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Originally posted by vanhoop View Posthttp://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...orried-it.html
10.45 on bbc tonight. Might sway a few“He'll regret it till his dying day, if ever he lives that long”
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Originally posted by Joe90 View PostThere are no facts surrounding this debate. Neither side can prove their points, it's all speculation. The only way to find out who is right is by voting leave...it's a big gamble and one we can't say conclusively will be worth it.You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.
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Originally posted by Joe90 View PostThere are no facts surrounding this debate. Neither side can prove their points, it's all speculation. The only way to find out who is right is by voting leave...it's a big gamble and one we can't say conclusively will be worth it.
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Originally posted by Jeems View PostAnd this is why we'll likely remain in - too much doubt, people dont like taking risks.
That'll be a shame in my opinion as we'll never know what might have been.“He'll regret it till his dying day, if ever he lives that long”
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Originally posted by Itsonlyagame View PostWhat, someone whose not your archetypal white Englishman voicing concerns over the amount of immigration. Must be that "marketing ploy" you were on about Ramsey is God.
It was a question i asked as a mere observation.
Calm yourself down, people are allowed to think differently to you. I hope the rest of the country puts a bit of thought into the actual effect of leaving and not just concerned about border control as its the only topic you seem interested in.
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Originally posted by Ramsey is god View Postiv really got your back up havnt i. Is it because i don't agree with your opinion.
It was a question i asked as a mere observation.
Calm yourself down, people are allowed to think differently to you. I hope the rest of the country puts a bit of thought into the actual effect of leaving and not just concerned about border control as its the only topic you seem interested in.
I'm not the one having pre-menstrual-esque outbursts or throwing inaccurate accusations around about people wanting to "close borders" or "kick Eastern Europeans out" and making additional accusations of racism and slander whilst making derogatory remarks about people who aren't happy with the current amount of immigration, accusing them being too lazy to look for work.
Regarding your question relating to the "marketing ploy" it was loaded, as you well know.
As far as getting my back up, I'd say most people would be irritated by someone who is so up themselves they can't even be bothered to read someone else's posts properly before launching in with a reply. You've done it time and time again during this thread with various people.
Anyway, maybe we should draw a line under it now otherwise i imagine we'll end up in the slug out thread, somewhere you've had plenty of experience of with various posters.
I can't think why.“He'll regret it till his dying day, if ever he lives that long”
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