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  • nsa/cia spy on this..............┌∩┐(◣_◢)┌∩┐

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    • Originally posted by Hitman34 View Post



      haha that cracked me up hits
      http://soundcloud.com/pinkie2

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      • In fact, f ark it, if I need to do this all over again in even more detail, I have no f arkin issue. It's fun to silence lunacy.

        Lets go through every club that's won the prem since 2006-07 and see how many goals their central midfield players have scored in total by comparison to their goal total and decide.

        16-17: Chelsea: 7 Goals out of 85
        15-16: Leicester: 5 Goals out of 68
        14-15: Chelsea: 12 Goals out of 73
        13-14: Man City: 33 Goals out of 102 (The Yaya Toure Year)
        12-13: Man Utd: 10 Goals out of 86
        11-12: Man City: 16 Goals out of 93
        10-11: Man Utd: 8 Goals out of 78
        09-10: Chelsea: 31 Goals out of 103 (The Lampard Year)
        08-09: Man Utd: 12 Goals out of 68
        07-08: Man Utd: 6 Goals out of 80
        06-07: Man Utd: 17 Goals out of 83

        So statistically speaking, half the time, prem winners have midfield's that score no more than 10 goals a season and contribute and in 8 out of the 11 seasons, the midfield scores less than 20% of the club's goals.

        You wanna complain about our midfield? Here's the comparison

        5 of our 31 goals this season were scored by our midfielders
        8 of our 52 goals last season were scored by our midfielders
        13 of our 52 goals in 15-16 were scored by our midfielders
        10 of our 42 goals in 14-15 were scored by our midfielders
        19 of our 58 goals in 13-14 were scored by our midfielders
        8 of our 18 goals in 12-13 were scored by our midfielders
        10 of our 43 goals in 11-12 were scored by our midfielders

        You get the idea. In only one full season of football did our midfielders score fewer than 20% of our goals and we still have more coming this season. Yet a lot of the time, our midfield outscores those of the prem winners. Do they complain that their midfield doesn't score enough? No, because their strikers do what they're supposed to do, and that is score. If our strikers and our wingers did the correct job, you wouldn't feel the need to complain about our midfield.
        Midfields don't need to score the goals that win you titles, strikers do, wingers do, it's their job to be attacking players and let the midfield create and defend.
        "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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        • Originally posted by WeAreQPR12 View Post
          He is a computer nerd, always last pick on the playground hence why he doesn't really get it.
          Oh no, you've shot me in the heart with that... how will I ever recover... last pick on the playground, christ, I'm basically not employable... what hope do I have on this Earth if Weare thinks this about me...
          "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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          • Fark me we won yesterday didn't we?

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            • Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
              Oh no, you've shot me in the heart with that... how will I ever recover... last pick on the playground, christ, I'm basically not employable... what hope do I have on this Earth if Weare thinks this about me...
              Do we have a stat on the recovery time from a burn
              Minds Are Like Parachutes.
              Work Best When Open...
              @Nowt2SeeHere

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              • Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
                In fact, f ark it, if I need to do this all over again in even more detail, I have no f arkin issue. It's fun to silence lunacy.

                Lets go through every club that's won the prem since 2006-07 and see how many goals their central midfield players have scored in total by comparison to their goal total and decide.

                16-17: Chelsea: 7 Goals out of 85
                15-16: Leicester: 5 Goals out of 68
                14-15: Chelsea: 12 Goals out of 73
                13-14: Man City: 33 Goals out of 102 (The Yaya Toure Year)
                12-13: Man Utd: 10 Goals out of 86
                11-12: Man City: 16 Goals out of 93
                10-11: Man Utd: 8 Goals out of 78
                09-10: Chelsea: 31 Goals out of 103 (The Lampard Year)
                08-09: Man Utd: 12 Goals out of 68
                07-08: Man Utd: 6 Goals out of 80
                06-07: Man Utd: 17 Goals out of 83

                So statistically speaking, half the time, prem winners have midfield's that score no more than 10 goals a season and contribute and in 8 out of the 11 seasons, the midfield scores less than 20% of the club's goals.

                You wanna complain about our midfield? Here's the comparison

                5 of our 31 goals this season were scored by our midfielders
                8 of our 52 goals last season were scored by our midfielders
                13 of our 52 goals in 15-16 were scored by our midfielders
                10 of our 42 goals in 14-15 were scored by our midfielders
                19 of our 58 goals in 13-14 were scored by our midfielders
                8 of our 18 goals in 12-13 were scored by our midfielders
                10 of our 43 goals in 11-12 were scored by our midfielders

                You get the idea. In only one full season of football did our midfielders score fewer than 20% of our goals and we still have more coming this season. Yet a lot of the time, our midfield outscores those of the prem winners. Do they complain that their midfield doesn't score enough? No, because their strikers do what they're supposed to do, and that is score. If our strikers and our wingers did the correct job, you wouldn't feel the need to complain about our midfield.
                Midfields don't need to score the goals that win you titles, strikers do, wingers do, it's their job to be attacking players and let the midfield create and defend.
                And of all those teams who all have very good strikers and 4 or more of them! and defenders aswell chipping in, sorry nas to think you dont need youre midfielders chipping ins rubbish.
                http://soundcloud.com/pinkie2

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                • Originally posted by Pinkie View Post
                  And of all those teams who all have very good strikers and 4 or more of them! and defenders aswell chipping in, sorry nas to think you dont need youre midfielders chipping ins rubbish.
                  You seem to misunderstand my point. My point is that if our strikers are doing their jobs, our midfielders could focus on doing theirs... Why should we complain about a midfield that does score enough goals just because our strikers aren't scoring enough? You should be complaining about the strike force and that should be the end of it. We don't need more complaints. It's the striker's and winger's jobs to score in general, if they aren't doing that, don't blame the f arkin midfield, blame the strikers.
                  "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                  • Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
                    You seem to misunderstand my point. My point is that if our strikers are doing their jobs, our midfielders could focus on doing theirs... Why should we complain about a midfield that does score enough goals just because our strikers aren't scoring enough? You should be complaining about the strike force and that should be the end of it. We don't need more complaints. It's the striker's and winger's jobs to score in general, if they aren't doing that, don't blame the f arkin midfield, blame the strikers.
                    Im missing no point thanks nas, footballs about getting goals all way around the team and especially in midfield, its as simple as that mate, if you think its not, well.....
                    http://soundcloud.com/pinkie2

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                    • Originally posted by Pinkie View Post
                      Im missing no point thanks nas, footballs about getting goals all way around the team and especially in midfield, its as simple as that mate, if you think its not, well.....
                      HAHAHAHAHAHA What about strikers? Is it not especially them? How are you going around giving this sorta statement and expecting me to take you seriously. Football is about getting goals and not conceding them. A striker's number one job is to score. A midfielder's job is dependent on his role but no midfielder has the number one job of scoring. They usually have creating and defending. Scoring can be a byproduct, but it almost never is the primary. Even those Yaya Toure and Lampard seasons of 20 goals from them, they were still defending, still creating as their primary goals, they just happened to add goals to their repertoire.

                      A striker should be scoring and when the team isn't scoring enough, you don't look anywhere before you look at the strikers. If they aren't doing their job, you don't say "well the midfield should pick up their slack", you say "well these strikers are cack, lets play different ones". Oteh and Smyth both scored on their first starts for the club, Wheeler scored on his first start as a striker for the club. IF they can keep it up, great, then maybe you'll finally realise that it is a striker's job to deal with the pressure of being the team's primary source of goals along with the wingers who in most cases are also required to score. If they can't deal with that pressure, then they're cack strikers. But you don't blame the midfield for the lack of goals when the strikers aren't setting the right examples in the first place.
                      "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                      • Originally posted by bakes8 View Post
                        Fark me we won yesterday didn't we?
                        I had to double check! You'd think a 3-1 away win, regardless of the opposition, would stop the petty farking squabbling.
                        Top Scorers 2018/2019

                        Nakhi Wells - 8
                        Pawel Wszolek - 6
                        Luke Freeman - 6
                        Matt Smith - 6
                        Ebere Eze - 4
                        Joel Lynch - 3
                        Tomer Hemed - 3
                        Toni Leistner - 2
                        Massimo Luongo- 2
                        Angel Rangel - 2
                        Bright Osayi-Samuel - 2
                        Geoff Cameron - 1
                        Aramide Oteh - 1
                        Jake Bidwell - 1
                        Jordan Cousins - 1

                        Summer Transfers 2019

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                        • Originally posted by Ginger Ninja View Post
                          I had to double check! You'd think a 3-1 away win, regardless of the opposition, would stop the petty farking squabbling.
                          I don't mean to get into squabbles, but if I get called out, it's not in my character to back down.

                          We played very very well yesterday and everyone who's getting plaudits from the result absolutely deserves it. Let's keep it up at home next weekend and push on in 2018.
                          "What stats allow you to do is not take things at face value. The idea that I trust my eyes more than the stats, I just don't buy that because I've seen magicians pull rabbits out of hats and I know I just know that rabbit's not in there." - Billy Beane

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                          • Originally posted by Ginger Ninja View Post
                            You'd think a 3-1 away win, regardless of the opposition, would stop the petty farking squabbling.
                            On the contrary Ginge. It gives some the ideal opportunity to try and force-feed people humble pie! Can't win either way

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                            • Originally posted by Stanley View Post
                              On the contrary Ginge. It gives some the ideal opportunity to try and force-feed people humble pie!
                              You could say the opposite after a poor result Stan, it gives some the ideal opportunity to celebrate!
                              Top Scorers 2018/2019

                              Nakhi Wells - 8
                              Pawel Wszolek - 6
                              Luke Freeman - 6
                              Matt Smith - 6
                              Ebere Eze - 4
                              Joel Lynch - 3
                              Tomer Hemed - 3
                              Toni Leistner - 2
                              Massimo Luongo- 2
                              Angel Rangel - 2
                              Bright Osayi-Samuel - 2
                              Geoff Cameron - 1
                              Aramide Oteh - 1
                              Jake Bidwell - 1
                              Jordan Cousins - 1

                              Summer Transfers 2019

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                              • Originally posted by nasser95 View Post
                                HAHAHAHAHAHA What about strikers? Is it not especially them? How are you going around giving this sorta statement and expecting me to take you seriously. Football is about getting goals and not conceding them. A striker's number one job is to score. A midfielder's job is dependent on his role but no midfielder has the number one job of scoring. They usually have creating and defending. Scoring can be a byproduct, but it almost never is the primary. Even those Yaya Toure and Lampard seasons of 20 goals from them, they were still defending, still creating as their primary goals, they just happened to add goals to their repertoire.

                                A striker should be scoring and when the team isn't scoring enough, you don't look anywhere before you look at the strikers. If they aren't doing their job, you don't say "well the midfield should pick up their slack", you say "well these strikers are cack, lets play different ones". Oteh and Smyth both scored on their first starts for the club, Wheeler scored on his first start as a striker for the club. IF they can keep it up, great, then maybe you'll finally realise that it is a striker's job to deal with the pressure of being the team's primary source of goals along with the wingers who in most cases are also required to score. If they can't deal with that pressure, then they're cack strikers. But you don't blame the midfield for the lack of goals when the strikers aren't setting the right examples in the first place.
                                Aswell as obviously, youre not dippy are you, so you know what i meant! next youll be telling me how small the pitch is at loftus road, and we cant play intricate football on it as its the smallest
                                http://soundcloud.com/pinkie2

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