England v Italy Match Thread

[Factamondo]

exactly celts....i think over expectation of where we stand as a national side dont help....ive said for ages we are around the 10-15th mark in the rankings if honest!

[DeepcutHoop]

"Almost impossible to chase the game..."? Well that's it then. As soon as we concede a goal in the second half we may as well walk off then cos to expect our players to comeback from a goal....no chance....deary me. If they had fùcking heart and desire and ran themselves into the ground and all got cramp....oh wait, theh did all get cramp and without even running a lot....we're doomed.

You're completely disregarding the cionditions though, which is massively unfair to the players.

[Factamondo]

it was clear to see our players were physically shot after 70mins!

[Robsondinho]

We played OK, but IMO we just don't have it in us, a mentality thing. Would not surprise me if we lose the next 2 also. We are a million miles of the world elite. What summed it up for me with the English mentality was when Pirlo passed a cracking pass, fizzed it in to his midfield partner and the commentator says "That is a risky pass". Was it F**K the guy just trusts his team mates ability to control a ball at pace in a tight space. Pirlo ran the show at 35 years of age, and we do not have any player in the country who can play like that.

[Factamondo]

vialli was spot on when he said english players cant handle pressure situations when playing for the national side!

[silvercue]

Thought england played well tbh. People going on like italy took the micky bliss.

we did play well....and on another day could have won it. Italy have great players, that's why they win things. Pretty humid too, not like playing here.

[bonheurjh]

Well Said W12 first half everything we created more or less went through Wellbeck and he was the main man closing the ball down up top and nicking it of them so we could counter

Bon 99% of what you spout is b ollocks and I hope that South Korea get smashed out of the ball park this WC

Some sh1te on me again.

REAL Sh1te is something like "Better than any South Korean player that exists"

Welbeck is complete utter crap against Son Heung Min.

Son can grab more goals, is alot faster, got more skills, better future, already a world class.

What is Welbeck???

100% of what you have said is just utter rubbish.

Don't transfer gutted heart to someone unrelated

[bonheurjh]

If an away fan came on here and put something up like this about QPR there would be uproar for taking he **** and calls for bans. Not posted in good taste Bon remember in the main this is an English messageboard frequented by I would guess are patriotic Englishmen so keep you nationalistic p iss taking to the Korean section if that still exists

On the football was less then impressed with Baines he is not up to it in my book and I have no idea how Ashley Cole is not at left back. I said we would live and die down the left and that happened yesterday time and time again they looked to do us down that side. Yes Baines was exposed but so has Cole been in the past and we have never had a new one torn like last night down there. In my view there is no way the ball would have gone in the box for their second had Cole been out there he is the master of getting a block in on holding up play

As much as I support English football, I have the right to criticisie them just like how I do for my Korean team.

Plus I didn't even come up with any Korean-related stuff until W12 came up and offended me with utter rubbish argument that Welbeck is better than all other Korean players.

How many goals and assists can Welbeck make in a top league level?

Korea's got quite a few world class or top class footballers who have scored hatricks and sorts scoring 10 + goals in a top class european league(Germany)

Just because all you've seen from Korea is 33 year old Park not running well, you can't over-generalise us.

The one offended me is him to begin with. The post I made Welbeck didn't do well is from the match against Italy from my supporting of England pov.


As for the poster, if this offended you, then sorry. it just happened to be my English mate sending this to me for a good laugh and for a move-on.

[Factamondo]

bon i admirer your national pride and support for them but i think south korea are in for a hiding out there mate....no one rates south east asia football on a world level if you are honest!

[bonheurjh]

For England, I am sure they can come up with some changes in their starting 11

Rooney on the left was one clueless decision made by the manager.

drop Wilshire,


go with 4-4-2


Rooney and Sturridge up front

Sterling on the left wing, Gerrard and Wilshire in the middle won't do any good, balance-wise.

[bonheurjh]

bon i admirer your national pride and support for them but i think south korea are in for a hiding out there mate....no one rates south east asia football on a world level if you are honest!

It's true. But my point is, I am not the one who brought that in here first, W12 just popped up out of nowhere and laided some sh1te on me totally on the purpose of offending me.

Plus Korea is not SE Asia. Its part of EAST ASIA.

those physically inferior Japanese losing to Ivory Coast doesnt mean we will be the same since we come from different roots.

No national pride here or anything.

the pod is still closed and anything can happen as you have seen.

Back to the point. I support England as my second team. Is it that offensive to you that I happen to criticise England with love and care?

[bakes8]

Taking the p iss out of England moments after a painful loss is poor taste I'm afraid bon, especially as it's not ur own Country ur ripping, show a little dacorum and u wont get folk tear back into you.

My thoughts on last night was that we were let down by our supposed experienced players. Gerrard and Rooney just don't do it for me..... Would much rather see Barkley and lallana in there instead, but then we would have almost a completely inexperienced line-up. Thought the young guns excelled, Sterling was superb, Welbeck worked his nuts off and Sturridge took his goal well.

I think had we equalized Italy would have come out and scored again, we were only in the ascendency once Italy sat back and defended their lead twice.
Think we still have a chance of progressing but it's gonne be tough..... And Woy may have to drop one of his 'stars' to do it.

[brightonr]

Total overreaction! Agree with w12 as Rooney was a weak link but at least England had a go and created some chances. It will always be suicide to allow the Italians to take a lead because they're the best team in the world with regards to seeing a game out but to be so negative os pretty pathetic of a man that isn't v level headed and is the last of the pathetic mods

So are you really telling me that Hart, Johnson, Baines, Gerrard and Rooney played well ?

About time you grew up a bit pal. No coincidence people are always taking the p155 out of you, is it ?

[bonheurjh]

Taking the p iss out of England moments after a painful loss is poor taste I'm afraid bon, especially as it's not ur own Country ur ripping, show a little dacorum and u wont get folk tear back into you.

My thoughts on last night was that we were let down by our supposed experienced players. Gerrard and Rooney just don't do it for me..... Would much rather see Barkley and lallana in there instead, but then we would have almost a completely inexperienced line-up. Thought the young guns excelled, Sterling was superb, Welbeck worked his nuts off and Sturridge took his goal well.

I think had we equalized Italy would have come out and scored again, we were only in the ascendency once Italy sat back and defended their lead twice.
Think we still have a chance of progressing but it's gonne be tough..... And Woy may have to drop one of his 'stars' to do it.

If thats the reason why some are upset. then my apologies.

In my uni campus everyone (I am English team supporter myself) was on and on criticising England while hoping they do better next time with better starting 11 picks

I thought its only natural thing to do that here as well.

Barkley was running hard after he got on the pitch. Welbeck wasn't doing good while trying to cover the front yard and mark pirlo at the same time.


as for Barkley and Lallana, I agree. Lallana is one very technical multi-tasking winger.

[WeAreQPR12]

So are you really telling me that Hart, Johnson, Baines, Gerrard and Rooney played well ?

About time you grew up a bit pal. No coincidence people are always taking the p155 out of you, is it ?

You should have left when quaz left. No one respects you and Stanley leaves you standing. If you think Gerrard was woeful then that's your opinion. Not sure much blame can be placed on Hart