No smoke without fire. And one or more players have been talking to the journalist, which proves there's a rotten spirit in a divided camp. But let's not boo them individually or collectively if they don't try or underperform, eh....?? Sums up our season. Even if they're not on the booze the fact that they train for a mere one and and half hours is the scandal. Cant they talk tactics amd formations? Why are we so sh1t????????
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Originally posted by 3London View PostYou miss my point, it is completely relevant, it is something that footballers have always done and will continue to do..it is not unique to football, look at cricket..rugby..American sports..
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Originally posted by swede View PostLiving in another hotel, taking his wife with him and not using the time to try and make the team bond.....if that`s true it´s enough. Harry is not the righ man for us.
It's a team trip to get us out of the sh!t not a family break.
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Originally posted by silvercue View Postyou didn't see them out so it is complete tosh? Really? I was out in London on Saturday and Paris on Wednesday and saw no celebrities - so I now know they don't exist and are made up by the press. The red tops do twist stories, but most of the time they do have something to them. I know two journos. They also hold stories for maximum impact. I don't know if this is true, but I imagine they didn't work particularly hard and am just amazed by the whole trip....as for Harry in a different hotel...why?
If we don't win this match this trip will have been a massive and expensive balls up. Harry is a man manager not a tactical coach in the modern style. He thinks a drink is ok and if he thought this was a team bonding exercise then that was a high risk way to do it.
Lets see what happens today. If we play badly then this trip will turn out to have been a slap in the face for fans. I hope I am wrong.
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Whether there's substance to much of this or not, the trip was a farce anyway. They need to train harder not less whne in our situation, so why go to a climate where it's too hot to properly train.... genius.
What is 90mins a day going to achieve? They should've been somewhere they could do 90 min intensive training and then spend more time in the afternoon working on set pieces etc (which we've been shocking at), be it attacking / defending corners, FK's , shooting practice whatever.
AS for Harry being allowed to take his wife on QPR's expenses if beyind a joke, and obvioulsly the reason they had different hotel.... farcical. You might as well tell kids at school to behave and then send the teacher to another school and leave them to it.
It also concerns me that there are many quotes in thjis, and certain players are obviously going to the media for their own agenda.... no doubt lucrative, and have they exagerated the truth to sensationalise the story, possibly. If articlke written factually though, it would also lead to being one of the old guard who still play because refers to annoyance at players here just for the money.... so rules out any of the new signings, and speculatory guess would suggest Mackie, Hill or Derry.Last edited by Del; 02-03-2013, 12:51 PM.
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Originally posted by Del View PostWhether there's substance to much of this or not, the trip was a farce anyway. They need to train harder not less whne in our situation, so why go to a climate where it's too hot to properly train.... genius.
What is 90mins a day going to achieve? They should've been somewhere they could do 90 min intensive training and then spend more time in the afternoon working on set pieces etc (which we've been shocking at), be it attacking / defending corners, FK's , shooting practice whatever.
AS for Harry being allowed to take his wife on QPR's expenses if beyind a joke, and obvioulsly the reason they had different hotel.... farcical. You might as well tell kids at school to behave and then send the teacher to another school and leave them to it.
It also concerns me that there are many quotes in thjis, and certain players are obviously going to the media for their own agenda.... no doubt lucrative, and have they exagerated the truth to sensationalise the story, possibly. If articlke written factually though, it would also lead to being one of the old guard who still play becasue refgers to annoyance at players here just for the money.... so rules out any of the new signings, and speculatory guess would suggest Mackie, Hill or Derry.
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Originally posted by vblockranger View PostPR guy Taylor tweet...
"The club is aware of the article in today's Daily Mirror but the club's entire focus is on today's fixture against Southampton.We will be making no further comment at this time"
that count as a non-statement? not denying it anyway
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Originally posted by Ed the Ball View PostI would say most of the Mirror story is pants, however it's probably true the players went on the p- i -s -s . With all their money and five days out in Dubai with time to kill, it's not rocket science. I would like to take a positive from this, the boozing may have been some well needed bonding among the players. Although I don't agree with boozing, I still want to see a positive.
The negative is what a farkin liberty players are taking, it's a big V- sign at the fans who pay your wages. And how come Harry isn'y keeping control, maybe he don't give a fark either. Fernandes is being mugged off :****edoff: That of course is IF this all true.
Absolutely a positive!,especially if there´s no communication between them lot, when they are sober Irony.Last edited by Shania; 02-03-2013, 01:04 PM.QPR
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Originally posted by silvercue View Postyou didn't see them out so it is complete tosh? Really? I was out in London on Saturday and Paris on Wednesday and saw no celebrities - so I now know they don't exist and are made up by the press. The red tops do twist stories, but most of the time they do have something to them. I know two journos. They also hold stories for maximum impact. I don't know if this is true, but I imagine they didn't work particularly hard and am just amazed by the whole trip....as for Harry in a different hotel...why?
If we don't win this match this trip will have been a massive and expensive balls up. Harry is a man manager not a tactical coach in the modern style. He thinks a drink is ok and if he thought this was a team bonding exercise then that was a high risk way to do it.
Lets see what happens today. If we play badly then this trip will turn out to have been a slap in the face for fans. I hope I am wrong.
Trust me, we have a decent sized supporters club out here and if the players were out on the smash someone would have spotted them and it would have got back to us!
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Originally posted by silvercue View PostAbsurd. Football is nothing like it used to be and the culture is 100% different too. Maybe the lower leagues get away with it, but do you think Man Utd do this? No. We need to win games, so regardless of the story - drinking is not what top athletes do when they need optimum performance.
what is the unprofessional part is the Alleged Players who spoke to the press.and the way the article is set up it wants you to assume its the English championship players who have gone to the press and it is the overpaid "mercenaries" that are the troublemakers.
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Originally posted by 3London View PostWe have no idea what goes on at other clubs..and at man utd didnt a certain mr Ferdinand "forget" about a drugs test a few years back. This story is doing exactly what it intended to do Muck racking. So many have jumped to conclusions on here..about the players..about harrys management style. If you had one night 8 days ago where you went on the lash would you still be feeling the effects now? no and if you are like me a less than fit individual then our recovery times is alot slower than anyone in their peak of physical fitness.
what is the unprofessional part is the Alleged Players who spoke to the press.and the way the article is set up it wants you to assume its the English championship players who have gone to the press and it is the overpaid "mercenaries" that are the troublemakers.
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