Who has given up

[acricketer]

You've got to try things to make mistakes, although you could get no where by playing side to side like our 2 crabs Jenas and M'bia, still lets blame the player with any vision and talent

I'm with you on that one!

[West Acton]

Us as fans have been truly awful this year... expectations have gone through the roof (And rightly so with the squad we have) but we really havent done ourselves justice.. IMO!!

[QUOTE=qpr4life;1040766]People have blamed either.... TF, PB, MH the Players and EVEN Harry now...

Our Atmosphere has been Sh1t - Simple.../QUOTE]

I have to admit I agree with this to some extent.

Like probably everyone on here our position is playing on my mind 24/7 its always there and im always thinking how we could have changed things.

Today driving to work I got to thinking have we as fans done everything we can, yes we turn up at home and in good numbers away but the atomsphere this season has been dire and I think its more then just the results making it that way. I think we turned up this season expecting it to be a comfortable season and we have taken for granted the influence and part we have to play and I include myself in that.

The swansea game was flat from the off, we have booed individual players and the team (as we always have done in the bush) throughout the season, not saying thats right or wrong thats another arguement and I can see why people feel the need to vent given how season has gone, but as early as september we were booing the team thats just 5 weeks into the season.

No we cant get on the pitch and play for the team but can we be doing more from the stand??. The only game were the atmosphere has rocked this season and were I personally feel we have got behind the team from the off was Chelsea away, cant think of any other games home or away were ive come away thinking the crowd were great and ive been every game home and away bar two.

From this saturday I think we need to give the late beer a miss pack out the away end from 30min before kick off (like they do abroad) when the players are warming up and get the songs going, sing the players names individually, gee the players up and show them were ready for one last push at staying up. We always make a point of taking the **** out of Fulhams away support saying ours is better and rightly so it is, but lets take it to another level for the 5 or 6 away games that remain as should we drop it could be a while before we return

[qpr4life]

Im not simple - I think we can stay up, I honestly think we can. After each result I have a little moan but that rally msyelf back up and start believing again.

I wont boo anyone etc, thats just not me but I understand all frustrations.

Simple fact is, if we lose the games in the next two months then we did deserve to go down.

People can tell me that we as fans deserve to moan and shout etc, but my view is (and yes I was there when we was ****ter ;-) haha) that we are expecting too much. We never had money or top players etc... We now have a great chairmen and manager etc...

One thing we have lost and we have lost it... is our home advantage. US, Us fans our always loud and proud. We always have fun whatever the score. Why so different now... id rather get smashed to United than a car company again.. Thats my point.

We blame lots of people... well im blaming us now... We really arent geting behind what is left of our season.

Some people still blame Anton and he's not even playing for us currently... thats how fricking bad its getting!!

[Ginger Ninja]

I still firmly believe we are staying up, but if we dont beat wigan, reading, villa and fulham, that belief will be all but gone.

[silvercue]

personally I though the atmosphere was often poor last season....and many season. It can be rocking like v Chelsea and last year Liverpool and Stoke towards then...but often it is flat. Can't see much difference to last year tbh except less to cheer about.

[kron-1664]

I knew the writing was on the wall after the Saints defeat.

When Harry came in i thought we had a chance but i think after the missed 3 points at home to Norwich and knowing Man U after time and games have simply run out. This team are simply not good enough to win 7 games out of 12.

[WeAreQPR12]

I knew the writing was on the wall after the Saints defeat.

When Harry came in i thought we had a chance but i think after the missed 3 points at home to Norwich and knowing Man U after time and games have simply run out. This team are simply not good enough to win 7 games out of 12.

11 left not 12

[Rebel R's]

I certanly have.

Ok if i was a player i wouldnt give up, id fight the cause until the very end but i have no faith in our playing staff at all and to me we are relegated.

We are s h i t and deserve to go down, how we can expect or hope to win 7 or 8 games out of the remaining 11 when we have won 2 all season is laughable.

The Championship here we come.

Very true we fully fully deserve to be relegated,we have been completely dire all season,it would take a miracle on par with the loafs and the fishes to save us,win 7-8 games?,more chance of Barton having a sex change !

[hal9thou]

I don't think we're gonna make it for reasons discussed in the Harry tactics thread - Harry's faith in a 4-4-2 led by Zamora is scarily misplaced. When the bookies make you 10/1 on for the drop, you're in big trouble.

Relegation does offer the opportunity of totally restructuring and planning for the long term. Unfortunately, owners of TF's ilk aren't generally interested in anything beyond a quick return. But if we don't learn from what went wrong we will drop further down the league. So I hope we use this as an opportunity to start afresh. I just wont hold my breath....

[BuffooneRy]

Wow, this was such a refreshing thread with such great input.

It made a great read, it was good to hear and totally different.

Thanks... Im glad I now know where you stand...

Please post again soon

It's not as if he isn't posting what many are and have already accepted.. Ok so it was to the point but come on with all this pompous positivity malarkey..... Face facts Susan Boyle has more chance of spending a night with Jonny Depp than we have of avoiding relegation....

Nothing wrong in wallowing in the inevitable....

[stainrod10]

From this saturday I think we need to give the late beer a miss pack out the away end from 30min before kick off (like they do abroad) when the players are warming up and get the songs going, sing the players names individually, gee the players up and show them were ready for one last push at staying up. We always make a point of taking the **** out of Fulhams away support saying ours is better and rightly so it is, but lets take it to another level for the 5 or 6 away games that remain as should we drop it could be a while before we return

Pointless saying we should do this, or that, or "lets make LR a hostile place to come" or "lets boo their every touch" etc. etc. If if doesn't come naturally then trying to "create" something just won't work.

[qpr4life]

It's not as if he isn't posting what many are and have already accepted.. Ok so it was to the point but come on with all this pompous positivity malarkey..... Face facts Susan Boyle has more chance of spending a night with Jonny Depp than we have of avoiding relegation....

Nothing wrong in wallowing in the inevitable....

Im not the one to say what is or isnt a good thread... But this isnt! (OP wasnt may I add)

1. Its just a moan, a simple moan
2. No discussion
3. A dig at our club that we support
4. A stupid way to add more conflict on the board

[vblockranger]

Im not the one to say what is or isnt a good thread... But this isnt! (OP wasnt may I add)

1. Its just a moan, a simple moan
2. No discussion
3. A dig at our club that we support
4. A stupid way to add more conflict on the board

So basically the op said something you disagree with ? make your case then. Turn it into a debate. Explain how in your opinion we will stay up and the players are not sh1t and the op is wrong. Dont just moan. Lets hear it......and saying "its the fans fault" just doesnt wash.

[Yousef]

Our last chance is Southampton. Win or down!

[qpr4life]

So basically the op said something you disagree with ? make your case then. Turn it into a debate. Explain how in your opinion we will stay up and the players are not sh1t and the op is wrong. Dont just moan. Lets hear it......and saying "its the fans fault" just doesnt wash.

The OP was ****! I didnt think it was good at all!! It was a sh1t post simple!!! There was nothing to disagree, I dont even know the point in the post!!

IMO we will stay because

1. We as FANS our always loud and proud!
2. We have Remy and Zamora now (Who IMO could be key, especially against the lesser teams)
3. Chris Samba - Rock against the best, should be superb against the teams around us
4. Adel will thrive against teams like Wigan etc home with the team we have
5. We have improved
6. We havent had a run of games against the teams around us Under Harry yet
7. We are tighter at the back now, we should be able to close games out

However, IF we do lose two on the bounce during this period, or fail to pick up any sort of points then we DESERVE to go down