Interesting link...

[KentHoopNSV]

http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/premier-league/2011-2012/table/2012-02-25

Prem table after 26 games last season.
We were only on 4 points more and had lost more games this time last year?!
Wigan were on 20 and escaped... with ease in the end, sitting comfortable (still dont know how) on 43 points?!

[paulmason]

The problem with QPR is they do not have the winning mentality. It was vital that when Twitcher came, we beat Wigan and Sunderland away, then Villa at home, who were all in free fall themselves and to get the monkey of our backs but we didn't. Loads of people on here were saying its not a problem, easy games to come etc, etc, but it was a major problem which will I fear lead to our relegation.

Those three teams are now stronger and winning games, so are Reading and Southampton whereas we are not as we still don't have a winning mentality, so there is only one conclusion in my books............

[CroydonCaptainJack]

I know. 8 less points than Wigan managed may be enough this season but we need to get on a run.

[Ric-Roc]

Wigan know how to dig wins / points out. We don't.

No goals = no points

Clean sheets & no goals = not enough points.

I've accepted we're gone personally. Defeatist? Maybe but I'd say more a realist.

Can't not beat one single side around us & expect to stay up. Sorry.

[qpr4life]

By the end of March we had 28 Points....

We have two months off winable games,

By the end of April we had 34

Its all to play for,

[paulmason]

Wigan know how to dig wins / points out. We don't.

No goals = no points

Clean sheets & no goals = not enough points.

I've accepted we're gone personally. Defeatist? Maybe but I'd say more a realist.

Can't not beat one single side around us & expect to stay up. Sorry.

Your not a defeatist, your a realist and if we stay up its a bonus.

Were were as good as relegated after we got three points from Wigan who had no fit players and other key players missing , Sunderland who were in free fall and rumor was O'Neil might loose his job and Villa who were in a worse mess than us.

[qpr4life]

Your not a defeatist, your a realist and if we stay up its a bonus.

Were were as good as relegated after we got three points from Wigan who had no fit players and other key players missing , Sunderland who were in free fall and rumor was O'Neil might loose his job and Villa who were in a worse mess than us.

Totally disagree, we have Remy who will come good in the games that we SHOULD WIN...

We also beat Chelsea and drew with Spurs and City which most predicted us to lose

[acricketer]

I have seen nothing to suggest we have the capability and stomach for survival. I'm sure everyone will try but it's too late for this squad.

[KentHoopNSV]

... and there was me trying to bring some light to the end of the tunnel.

[paulmason]

Totally disagree, we have Remy who will come good in the games that we SHOULD WIN...

We also beat Chelsea and drew with Spurs and City which most predicted us to lose

Thank god we did otherwise we would definitely be relegated. Also, amongst other results, Wigan beat Spurs and Southampton beat Man City, these results happen but the ones that really matter are the games v the teams around us and you do know that we are bottom for a reason, don't you ?

[Gerryhatrick]

Its simple.
IMO we need 38 points for survival.
This means 21 more points from 12 games, which equates to 1.75 points per game.

So these are the possible equations,
5 wins, 6 draws and 1 defeat. To go the rest of the season and only lose one game is very unlikely, even for a Manchester club.
6 wins, 3 draws, and 3 defeats. This means we win half out remaining games, possible if there is a dramatic change of form, but unlikely again.
7 wins, 5 defeats. This actually appears the most possible, but there is still no evidence of us starting to score goals, especially with Remy still out.

When we draw games we actually lose ground and the average points per game needed increases, so it's not good enough.

I think we're down, sorry.

[qpr4life]

Thank god we did otherwise we would definitely be relegated. Also, amongst other results, Wigan beat Spurs and Southampton beat Man City, these results happen but the ones that really matter are the games v the teams around us and you do know that we are bottom for a reason, don't you ?

Im more than happy to accept and admit how poor we have been, but we improved and I will continue to say we have.

The fact remains, Harry hasnt had a run of games that we CAN/SHOULD win...

March and April is where it begins and after that we will know our fate. Simple

[KentHoopNSV]

Too many draws this season has quite possibly already sealed our fate...

[qpr4life]

Too many draws this season has quite possibly already sealed our fate...

Or kept us up...

[paulmason]

Im more than happy to accept and admit how poor we have been, but we improved and I will continue to say we have.

The fact remains, Harry hasnt had a run of games that we CAN/SHOULD win...

March and April is where it begins and after that we will know our fate. Simple

Here are 6 consecutive games where every team we played (except Fulham) were in a bad way when we played them and we should have won if we had any ideas of not being relegated. We couldn't beat teams that were in a worse mess than us and we didn't even get new manager bounce ?

Sunderland - A
Aston Villa - H
Wigan - A
Fulham - H
Newcastle - A
West Bromich Albion - H