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  • Originally posted by Marshy View Post
    Yes, that is why Tarbs was up until a few months ago, 4th in the table of most chances created. And that is why Tarbs set up Remy against West Ham. But, ok.
    If you dont know the move im on about then you clearly didnt watch the game...
    Last edited by Norths; 03-03-2013, 02:39 PM.

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    • Originally posted by Marshy View Post
      Yes, that is why Tarbs was up until a few months ago, 4th in the table of most chances created. And that is why Tarbs set up Remy against West Ham. But, ok.
      That was then and this is now.

      Bottom line - Taarabt's form has been poor of late. That's why he was dropped. It's no more complicated than that.

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      • Originally posted by NortholtRanger View Post
        If you dont the move im on about then you clearly didnt watch the game...
        I know what you're on a about, but it is a stupid argument. It's a bit like arguing that someone who scores a towering header should be chosen ahead of Messi because Messi wouldn't have done that in a game!

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        • Originally posted by Stanley76 View Post
          That was then and this is now.

          Bottom line - Taarabt's form has been poor of late. That's why he was dropped. It's no more complicated than that.
          He was poor in the last 60 minutes against Norwich, and poor against Man Utd. Then again, apart from Townsend, so was everyone else.

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          • Originally posted by Marshy View Post
            I know what you're on a about, but it is a stupid argument. It's a bit like arguing that someone who scores a towering header should be chosen ahead of Messi because Messi wouldn't have done that in a game!
            Haha you cant use Messi as an example young'un.

            It was a fluid attacking move, pass pass pass before the through ball over the top.

            On recent evidence, Taarabt would have taken a touch/attempted a stepover etc, players would have already made their run (Remy) and with no ball arriving the move would have completely broken down.

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            • Originally posted by NortholtRanger View Post
              Haha you cant use Messi as an example young'un.

              It was a fluid attacking move, pass pass pass before the through ball over the top.

              On recent evidence, Taarabt would have taken a touch/attempted a stepover etc, players would have already made their run (Remy) and with no ball arriving the move would have completely broken down.

              You can't quote recent evidence, because on recent evidence Tarbs and Remy have not played together. The two times they did (West Ham and Man City) there was no evidence of Tarbs doing stepovers and holding the play up, they in fact seemed to play very well together.

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              • First 20-30 minutes against West Ham he played one through ball that resulted in a goal. The rest of the game we were on the back foot and seem to remember Taarabt wasting possession numerous times when we could have relieved a bit of pressure.

                Besides, I think Remy did just fine yesterday and the evidence was there to suggest others can supply the ammo for him (Hoilett assist, betty ball over the top)

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                • Yesterday was the first time in weeks we looked to have a threat on goal, why?.....because we played 2 strikers, thats the choice we had Bothroyd or Taararbt, and 'Arry chose right for the sake of the team

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                  • Originally posted by Marshy View Post
                    He was poor in the last 60 minutes against Norwich, and poor against Man Utd. Then again, apart from Townsend, so was everyone else.
                    We looked more like a 'team' without Adel, with everyone knowing their roles. We looked more solid and cohesive without him. More players were taking more responsibility, knowing that they couldn't rely on Adel as our one and only creative outlet. Shearer's critique was correct too. Yes he has produced a few moments of brilliance like away to Chelsea and WHU and at home to Fulham, but overall it has been too few and far between for a team in our current predicament.

                    Yesterday HR set the team up without Adel away from home to soak up pressure then hit them on the counter, which is exactly what we did. Yes, we rode our luck at times, which team doesn't? Yes, it was a bit ugly at times, which team doesn't have to do that?

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                    • Originally posted by Marshy View Post
                      Yes, that is why Tarbs was up until a few months ago, 4th in the table of most chances created. And that is why Tarbs set up Remy against West Ham. But, ok.
                      Chill Adel, if you are as good as you say you are Barca or Real will be in for you in the summer and you will no longer need to warm that bench. It's everyone else who is misunderstood and you actually right, a real world beater just playing with poor players.

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                      • Originally posted by rickyranger View Post
                        Chill Adel, if you are as good as you say you are Barca or Real will be in for you in the summer and you will no longer need to warm that bench. It's everyone else who is misunderstood and you actually right, a real world beater just playing with poor players.
                        No one has said Adel is good enough for Barcelona or Real Madrid. You're using a straw man argument, which goes to show that you can't argue your case sensibly, which goes to show that you don't have a case. Thanks for making it so easy for me to dismiss your anti-Taarabt ramblings.

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                        • Originally posted by Marshy View Post
                          No one has said Adel is good enough for Barcelona or Real Madrid. You're using a straw man argument, which goes to show that you can't argue your case sensibly, which goes to show that you don't have a case. Thanks for making it so easy for me to dismiss your anti-Taarabt ramblings.
                          Ok Adel

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                          • this arguments shouldn't be about whether adel is good enough - think most of us wd recognise he is our most naturally talented player. the question is whether he is what we need at the moment. harry was very clear about his team selection - he chose 11 players he believed wd give everything for the cause. we all know park's weaknesses but how many of our players this season wd have even gone in for the challenge that led to our winning goal, let alone coming away with the ball? its all about winning ugly now. one of our main weakness this season has been failure to get players into the box. with adel you can't, in our weak position, also play two strikers. today showed the value of two strikers. i'm one of adel's biggest fans but think yesterday without him (and even more crucially, without mackie) we looked a much more solid, pacey unit.

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                            • Originally posted by stainrodisalegend View Post
                              this arguments shouldn't be about whether adel is good enough - think most of us wd recognise he is our most naturally talented player. the question is whether he is what we need at the moment. harry was very clear about his team selection - he chose 11 players he believed wd give everything for the cause. we all know park's weaknesses but how many of our players this season wd have even gone in for the challenge that led to our winning goal, let alone coming away with the ball? its all about winning ugly now. one of our main weakness this season has been failure to get players into the box. with adel you can't, in our weak position, also play two strikers. today showed the value of two strikers. i'm one of adel's biggest fans but think yesterday without him (and even more crucially, without mackie) we looked a much more solid, pacey unit.

                              We also looked pacey against West Ham (first 30 mins) and Man City - both games in which Remy played. So I don't think it is that we dropped Adel that made us pacier, I think it is having Remy and a fit-again Hoilett in the team that did.

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                              • Originally posted by rickyranger View Post
                                Ok Adel
                                Another straw man argument. Just keeps on proving you have no case.

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