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  • #31
    Originally posted by Rangers77 View Post
    Yep. Carefully chosen words. Those goals were down to him and mistakes he made....
    So Cesar was personally responsible for defats at Swansea, Spurs West Ham?? Is it not a team game? Are our faultering strikers not responsible personally as its their job to score goals and if they had Anton's alleged mistakes would not have mattered?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by qpr4life View Post
      LOL - Constructively booing....

      1. I think players know when they are playing bad or do something bad e.g Clint Hill against WBA/Swansea

      Booing MH, erm... yeah That did work and I understand the need for this. It worked and its something we all wanted.

      I just think booing and slagging players of verbally doesnt work.

      Like sarcastically clapping players as they get subbed.... That for me is nasty and ridiculous.

      I get what your saying, just think booing is a bit mad.

      Can I make a point, We was terrible for years. We got lucky and got new owners who now love the club - We should remember where we came from!
      I think the trouble is we all worry where we're going....... :-)

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      • #33
        Originally posted by QPRDave View Post
        So Cesar was personally responsible for defats at Swansea, Spurs West Ham?? Is it not a team game? Are our faultering strikers not responsible personally as its their job to score goals and if they had Anton's alleged mistakes would not have mattered?
        My exact thoughts, I decided not to continue my battle on this. But my point in a nutshell is this...

        How can someone be blammed personally is beyond me.

        Cesar is a great example.....

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        • #34
          Originally posted by QPRDave View Post
          So Cesar was personally responsible for defats at Swansea, Spurs West Ham?? Is it not a team game? Are our faultering strikers not responsible personally as its their job to score goals and if they had Anton's alleged mistakes would not have mattered?
          I said goals......not defeats. Not even points. I could describe the goals I mention in horrible detail. And Anton was personally responsible for those I cited. Its tough on defenders and goalies, I know. One mistake and they cost us a goal. We cannot tell, other than clear cut misses, how many goals we failed to score thanks to Cisse's underperformances. But that's life in the big city.....

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Rangers77 View Post
            I said goals......not defeats. Not even points. I could describe the goals I mention in horrible detail. And Anton was personally responsible for those I cited. Its tough on defenders and goalies, I know. One mistake and they cost us a goal. We cannot tell, other than clear cut misses, how many goals we failed to score thanks to Cisse's underperformances. But that's life in the big city.....
            So AF didnt cost us the game,..

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Rangers77 View Post
              I said goals......not defeats. Not even points. I could describe the goals I mention in horrible detail. And Anton was personally responsible for those I cited. Its tough on defenders and goalies, I know. One mistake and they cost us a goal. We cannot tell, other than clear cut misses, how many goals we failed to score thanks to Cisse's underperformances. But that's life in the big city.....
              Seems i didn't say defeats either...

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              • #37
                Originally posted by qpr4life View Post
                So AF didnt cost us the game,..


                Two goals, one of which he passed the ball to the striker in our box, against WBA away cost us three points; two points against Reading at home; we might have got a draw a Man U; his own goal against Soton sealed our fate (but we were so poor we'd never proved able to chase the game after Holiett got one back)...... Still, five points would come in handy at present. I could go on, but if you rate him...

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by QPRDave View Post
                  Seems i didn't say defeats either...
                  LOL

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Rangers77 View Post
                    Two goals, one of which he passed the ball to the striker in our box, against WBA away cost us three points; two points against Reading at home; we might have got a draw a Man U; his own goal against Soton sealed our fate (but we were so poor we'd never proved able to chase the game after Holiett got one back)...... Still, five points would come in handy at present. I could go on, but if you rate him...
                    Yep, I actually didnt say I did.... I understood the anger he caused is what I said.

                    Im not a huge fan all the time, but I think he has the ability to play well/at a high standard week in week out

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by qpr4life View Post
                      Yep, I actually didnt say I did.... I understood the anger he caused is what I said.

                      Im not a huge fan all the time, but I think he has the ability to play well/at a high standard week in week out
                      lol well that just negates any argument you put forward about anything football based :-) . Ferdinand is not the only one, we have a squad full of sh1t players. Three or Four decent ones let down by the majority of sh1t ones.
                      Last edited by vblockranger; 19-02-2013, 04:39 PM.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by vblockranger View Post
                        lol well that just negates any argument you put forward about anything football based :-) . Ferdinand is not the only one, we have a squad full of sh1t players. Three or Four decent ones let down by the majority of sh1t ones.
                        IMO -

                        Ferdinand isnt **** - and Ferdinand isnt the only issue we had before Harry came in

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by qpr4life View Post
                          IMO -

                          Ferdinand isnt **** - and Ferdinand isnt the only issue we had before Harry came in
                          ??? course he isnt...got nearly a whole squad of sh1t ones.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by vblockranger View Post
                            ??? course he isnt...got nearly a whole squad of sh1t ones.
                            ???? ???? ???? where's the question Vblock ;-)

                            Im not disagreeing, with the fact he isnt our best player or playing well (Well when he was with us)

                            Im saying (Lay off the abuse, its getting frustrating)

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by qpr4life View Post
                              ???? ???? ???? where's the question Vblock ;-)

                              Im not disagreeing, with the fact he isnt our best player or playing well (Well when he was with us)

                              Im saying (Lay off the abuse, its getting frustrating)
                              cos you dont like hearing it or you dont like admitting it? Too many sh1t players in our squad and two wins all season prove that. Just have to accept it mate but dont take it to heart cos players good or bad come and go. Probably have a whole different team next year! :-)

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by vblockranger View Post
                                cos you dont like hearing it or you dont like admitting it? Too many sh1t players in our squad and two wins all season prove that. Just have to accept it mate but dont take it to heart cos players good or bad come and go. Probably have a whole different team next year! :-)
                                Give it a rest Vblock - Seriously haha

                                I was at first chatting fairly over this, and as said before I understand that AF hasnt been playing to the level we needed.

                                Why do you continuously feel the need to tell me to accept things.

                                Im accepting people dont rate him, I dont accept abusing our own players. Simple... Maybe deal with that!!!!!

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