Taarabt

[Marshy]

An average Premiership one is an average player playing for an average side. So that would mean an average player for Fulham, like Sidwell.

if you really think Adsl is at the same level as Sidwell, you have absolutely no idea.

[Marshy]

NW9, I'll remember this post. Once he moves to a bigger club and is surrounded by better players instead of the sh1te we have here, your words will come back to haunt you.

[vblockranger]

An average Premiership one is an average player playing for an average side. So that would mean an average player for Fulham, like Sidwell.

if you really think Adsl is at the same level as Sidwell, you have absolutely no idea.

would he get into the starting 11 of any of the current top 10 sides in the prem? no i dont think he would. Hope he stays and plays in the Championship for us as he proved what he can do there against Championship players.

[Del]

90% of the time Adel loses the ball, it is because he is trying to take someone on or doing something flash because there are hardly any options around him. When Traore gets forward, Adel usually links up well with him.

No it's not.

If he tried something and lost the ball when he had no alternative then i wouldn't be bothered, because he'd have had no option / support whatever. The fact is i would imagine you could flip that number on its head and say 90% of the time he loses the ball by trying tricks or beating players he does have support or an option to pass the ball to a free and available team mate, but chooses not to. The other 10% he may have no option.

[cujimmy]

How effective is Taarabt?

sums it up for me.

taken from http://www.eplindex.com/24107/qpr-0-...ts-report.html

Taarabt is an enigmatic player. By turns QPR’s savior and villain, the Moroccan was once again a large tactical talking point of Sunday’s match.
Taarabt was easily QPR’s most active and involved player on the pitch. Clearly, he is the leverage point of their attack. Taarabt received most passes and had more touches on the ball than any other Hoops player. Additionally, he drew the most fouls from Liverpool players, winning 5 free kicks in total, two of which were in dangerous areas of the pitch. Taarabt also managed to win possession 7 times in the midfield third.
Despite this, he rarely managed to generate any tangible effect with his possession. Of his five attempted dribbles, only one was successful. And while he had the joint highest shots on target for Rangers, with the best accuracy, all of these shots were toothless and directed straight at Pepe Reina. To top it all off, he lost possession more times than any of this teammates, with a total 22 give-aways to Liverpool and failed to create a single chance for his teammates.
To sum up, it was a rocky performance. While Taarabt can sometimes look the part, mere appearance all too frequently seems the full extent of his ability. It is hard to tell whether he has a proclivity to drift out of position or just an inability to maintain a specific tactical role. He had the most shots on target for QPR, but his rambling movement cut Cisse out of play and condemned the striker to isolation.
The Moroccan will need to overcome his tunnel vision and sacrifice a modicum of individual liberty if he wants to create more tangible attacking products for QPR.

[Del]

sums it up for me.

taken from http://www.eplindex.com/24107/qpr-0-...ts-report.html

Taarabt is an enigmatic player. By turns QPR’s savior and villain, the Moroccan was once again a large tactical talking point of Sunday’s match.
Taarabt was easily QPR’s most active and involved player on the pitch. Clearly, he is the leverage point of their attack. Taarabt received most passes and had more touches on the ball than any other Hoops player. Additionally, he drew the most fouls from Liverpool players, winning 5 free kicks in total, two of which were in dangerous areas of the pitch. Taarabt also managed to win possession 7 times in the midfield third.
Despite this, he rarely managed to generate any tangible effect with his possession. Of his five attempted dribbles, only one was successful. And while he had the joint highest shots on target for Rangers, with the best accuracy, all of these shots were toothless and directed straight at Pepe Reina. To top it all off, he lost possession more times than any of this teammates, with a total 22 give-aways to Liverpool and failed to create a single chance for his teammates.
To sum up, it was a rocky performance. While Taarabt can sometimes look the part, mere appearance all too frequently seems the full extent of his ability. It is hard to tell whether he has a proclivity to drift out of position or just an inability to maintain a specific tactical role. He had the most shots on target for QPR, but his rambling movement cut Cisse out of play and condemned the striker to isolation.
The Moroccan will need to overcome his tunnel vision and sacrifice a modicum of individual liberty if he wants to create more tangible attacking products for QPR.

Brilliant detail which perfectly sums up what some of us keep trying to point out to those that won't accept any thought of him actually being part of the problem.

What an article like that doesn't highlight though is how many times when he lost the ball 22 times or failed with a dribble did we then have players out of position when Liverpool broke, and as a result far more at risk to lose a goal.

[vblockranger]

"with a total 22 give-aways to Liverpool "

[Del]

And probably the most telling stat of all in that piece....

........"and failed to create a single chance for his teammates"

This isn't uncommen of late because he thinks he doesn't need anyone else and plays like a kid in the playground, meaning he either keeps it until he loses it or shoots from any angle and distance.

[rickyranger]

Mark Hughes had similar qualificaitons? Think this undermines your argument not strengthens it. I also presume these were English clubs? English coaching is aboslutely rubbish. How many top English managers/coaches are there in the game?

Would suggest you do a bit of research to find out exactly who has Football Association A lincences before posting. You may be surprised by the amount of high profile,so called foreign coaches, who take the trouble to take and pass this qualification.

[rickyranger]

sums it up for me.

taken from http://www.eplindex.com/24107/qpr-0-...ts-report.html

Taarabt is an enigmatic player. By turns QPR’s savior and villain, the Moroccan was once again a large tactical talking point of Sunday’s match.
Taarabt was easily QPR’s most active and involved player on the pitch. Clearly, he is the leverage point of their attack. Taarabt received most passes and had more touches on the ball than any other Hoops player. Additionally, he drew the most fouls from Liverpool players, winning 5 free kicks in total, two of which were in dangerous areas of the pitch. Taarabt also managed to win possession 7 times in the midfield third.
Despite this, he rarely managed to generate any tangible effect with his possession. Of his five attempted dribbles, only one was successful. And while he had the joint highest shots on target for Rangers, with the best accuracy, all of these shots were toothless and directed straight at Pepe Reina. To top it all off, he lost possession more times than any of this teammates, with a total 22 give-aways to Liverpool and failed to create a single chance for his teammates.
To sum up, it was a rocky performance. While Taarabt can sometimes look the part, mere appearance all too frequently seems the full extent of his ability. It is hard to tell whether he has a proclivity to drift out of position or just an inability to maintain a specific tactical role. He had the most shots on target for QPR, but his rambling movement cut Cisse out of play and condemned the striker to isolation.
The Moroccan will need to overcome his tunnel vision and sacrifice a modicum of individual liberty if he wants to create more tangible attacking products for QPR.

His hero worshipers still won't believe it as they are just incapable of understanding his self indulgence and limitations.

[Marshy]

So you're telling me that Routledge is better than Tarbs?

[Marshy]

No it's not.

If he tried something and lost the ball when he had no alternative then i wouldn't be bothered, because he'd have had no option / support whatever. The fact is i would imagine you could flip that number on its head and say 90% of the time he loses the ball by trying tricks or beating players he does have support or an option to pass the ball to a free and available team mate, but chooses not to. The other 10% he may have no option.

Nope, you're just making stuff up as you go along.

[Stanley]

So you're telling me that Routledge is better than Tarbs?

Did you read the article?

[Marshy]

And probably the most telling stat of all in that piece....

........"and failed to create a single chance for his teammates"

This isn't uncommen of late because he thinks he doesn't need anyone else and plays like a kid in the playground, meaning he either keeps it until he loses it or shoots from any angle and distance.

For him to create a chance he needs players in the right position. Even Lionel Messi will not be able to create chances if Cisse is standing around and Mackie is running around like a headless chicken.

[Marshy]

Did you read the article?

Why don't you answer my question instead of starting your sh1te?

Is Routledge better than Tarbs?