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  • #61
    Originally posted by Rangers77 View Post
    Clueless? Yep. We've done brilliantly up front with Cisse leading the line. Look at all the goals we've scored and the games we've won with him up front. Let's not change a thing. Cisse's a stand out star. His passing, link up play, running into space, tracking back, defensive work is second to none...
    Still in the Top 3 as Top Scorers for us, along with Adel that fans are slating now.

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Marshy View Post
      But a player like Suarez can make things happen. Even if he gets it ourside the box, he can wriggle and go past the defender and get into the box and then shoot or pass to someone else. Cisse just cannot do this.

      I do feel sorry for Cisse, as I think he has been trying, it's just that our team is not suited for his game. If he was playing for someone like Spurs, I am sure he would be doing well - he is a quality finisher. But for us, it sadly isn't happening.
      Well, I guess we could buy a consistent striker that has a good enough box of tricks (although it will be expensive) and then pray that Park regains fitness and form, and that Hoilett improves his game.

      Kinda scary though.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Marshy View Post
        But a player like Suarez can make things happen. Even if he gets it ourside the box, he can wriggle and go past the defender and get into the box and then shoot or pass to someone else. Cisse just cannot do this.

        I do feel sorry for Cisse, as I think he has been trying, it's just that our team is not suited for his game. If he was playing for someone like Spurs, I am sure he would be doing well - he is a quality finisher. But for us, it sadly isn't happening.
        Yes that is why Suarez is worth about £30 million. What about that Messi bloke, he seems to be able to do what you expect Cisse to do? Jesus Christ our fans make me laugh. Because Cisse doesn't get the ball outside the box, beat 3 players and top corner it then he can't be what we need? I'd say Cisse is one of the best finishers in the bottom half of the table. Yes he has his flaws, and to be fair quite a few of them but how many teams bar the top 8 sides have players that can do what you mention? Cisse needs the right service. How many chances did we create today? How many times did the ball go in their box? Cisse is lazy but I'm pretty sure he can still be affective and with the right service score goals.
        Last edited by RobertoQPR; 27-12-2012, 01:46 AM.

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Joon View Post
          Well, I guess we could buy a consistent striker that has a good enough box of tricks (although it will be expensive) and then pray that Park regains fitness and form, and that Hoilett improves his game.

          Kinda scary though.
          lol Park aint gonna help any...

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          • #65
            I think most of us would agree that Cisse is a quality finisher, but it is also true that we may benefit from another striker. We certainly can't afford Suarez himself (nor would he be willing to come here), but that's not what Marshy was asking for. He wanted a Suarez-type striker, which, granted, may still be hard to find at an affordable price, and it may be hard to convince such a talent to come to our team at this point except with lots of money.

            I think that adding a reliable winger may be just as important as adding a good striker, but if we do buy a winger instead of a striker, we may seriously need to consider giving Taarabt more of a goal-getter's role, rather than a winger. I think Taarabt has the ability to provide decent service, but I don't think he really wants to be in that role. He wants to be the team's star, not the silent supporting player who gets things done.

            @ vblock, as I said it's scary to rely on Park or Hoilett at this point, and it's not very likely they'll perform as well as we need, but Park in his best form (as unlikely as it is that he'll regain it), would make a huge difference. I still think it's better to buy a new winger who is also proven and currently consistent, than to simply rely on Park and Hoilett et al.
            Last edited by Joon; 27-12-2012, 01:58 AM.

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            • #66
              Cisse isn't the problem, it's our sheit team that can't create chances. He's on his own most of the time and chasing 'hail marys", no wonder he's offside so often trying to extract any advantage.

              Let's face it we are shiit and can't supply a striker with a fart. it's embarrassing to see the ineptitude of a talentless bunch of clueless plankton.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by acricketer View Post
                Cisse isn't the problem, it's our sheit team that can't create chances. He's on his own most of the time and chasing 'hail marys", no wonder he's offside so often trying to extract any advantage.

                Let's face it we are shiit and can't supply a striker with a fart. it's embarrassing to see the ineptitude of a talentless bunch of clueless plankton.
                This. Perhaps we disagree on just how clueless this plankton is.... And some of us think it includes Cisse.

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                • #68
                  Cisse needs to learn from Lukaku
                  QPR fan since1987

                  @yousef_qpr

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                  • #69
                    I think Danny Graham would be the perfect striker for us, knows where the goal is but also importantly is very good with his back to goal. Oh how we would love routledge here again, but he weerent good enough fr alot of our fans!!

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                    • #70
                      Faced with a one on one with the goalie there isn'ta player i'd rather have then our Cisse.
                      Like loads have said he needs the service and partnership of someone like our Zamora which i'm sure our Harry is gonna put right very soon.

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                      • #71
                        Been saying all along play ball to feet & he will at least hit the target if not score, how often do we see these balls played to him? Once twice every 2-3 games maybe. It's embarrassing. I saw big balls lumped up to SWP at times yesterday against a 6 foot defender!! Now that's clueless football.

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                        • #72
                          On at least a few occations Taraabt should have passed to Cisse, But as per usual he decided to do a step over instead.Have to say, I´m getting a bit bored of his step-overs now. Especially when he announce them on print; so to speak.
                          Taraabt IS our far most intellligent fotballer ATM, so just why can´t he pick a simple pass to a better placed Cisse when that obviously is the right thing to do...
                          This really irritates me..
                          QPR
                          Best team in the world
                          Sort of

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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Joon View Post
                            I think most of us would agree that Cisse is a quality finisher, but it is also true that we may benefit from another striker. We certainly can't afford Suarez himself (nor would he be willing to come here), but that's not what Marshy was asking for. He wanted a Suarez-type striker, which, granted, may still be hard to find at an affordable price, and it may be hard to convince such a talent to come to our team at this point except with lots of money.

                            I think that adding a reliable winger may be just as important as adding a good striker, but if we do buy a winger instead of a striker, we may seriously need to consider giving Taarabt more of a goal-getter's role, rather than a winger. I think Taarabt has the ability to provide decent service, but I don't think he really wants to be in that role. He wants to be the team's star, not the silent supporting player who gets things done.

                            @ vblock, as I said it's scary to rely on Park or Hoilett at this point, and it's not very likely they'll perform as well as we need, but Park in his best form (as unlikely as it is that he'll regain it), would make a huge difference. I still think it's better to buy a new winger who is also proven and currently consistent, than to simply rely on Park and Hoilett et al.
                            I'm glad that some people actually read the posts properly! As you say, it's not Suarez I am after, but I do think there are young players out there with a similar game who could be brought in relatively cheap. I mean, if we can afford to give players like Bosingwa 65,000 a week and spend 9 million on Granero who doesn't even play, then I am sure we can find a decent young striker from abroad for 4-5 million.
                            Last edited by Marshy; 27-12-2012, 11:52 AM.

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                            • #74
                              Originally posted by RobertoQPR View Post
                              Yes that is why Suarez is worth about £30 million. What about that Messi bloke, he seems to be able to do what you expect Cisse to do? Jesus Christ our fans make me laugh. Because Cisse doesn't get the ball outside the box, beat 3 players and top corner it then he can't be what we need? I'd say Cisse is one of the best finishers in the bottom half of the table. Yes he has his flaws, and to be fair quite a few of them but how many teams bar the top 8 sides have players that can do what you mention? Cisse needs the right service. How many chances did we create today? How many times did the ball go in their box? Cisse is lazy but I'm pretty sure he can still be affective and with the right service score goals.
                              QPR could also try and prise Falcao away from Atletico Madrid and beat Chelsea to him!

                              Seriously though, Cisse is a good clinical finisher when players create a chance for him. Mbia's pass was excellent, but unfortunately these type of passes are few and far between.

                              Cisse could also do with more support in attack (someone who creates space or occupies defenders in a way that Crouch does).

                              Taarabt can create chances, but more often than not he dwells on the ball too long or tries to go it alone. He did set up Cisse at Newcastle, but Krul pulled off a good save. Taarbat needs to do more of this.

                              I do expect Redknapp to sign at least one striker next month and hopefully this will help QPR to win matches, but getting rid of Cisse is not the solution.

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Marshy View Post
                                I'm glad that some people actually read the posts properly! As you say, it's not Suarez I am after, but I do think there are young players out there with a similar game who could be brought in relatively cheap. I mean, if we can afford to give players like Bosingwa 65,000 a week and spend 9 million on Granero who doesn't even play, then I am sure we can find a decent young striker from abroad for 4-5 million.
                                ok, so not saurez but a saurez type striker. who? lukaka was mentioned by another poster, but how much did he cost? graham turned us down and we haven't done much to prove that was a wrong decision. every team in the bottom six cries out for a natural finisher but the funny thing about natural finishers is they are as rare as hen's teeth and consequently very expensive. Very hard to think of one who is good enough to improve us who is bad enough to want to come.

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