Boxing Day game could be called off

[vespa]

Wow - you had to change your break times. Did you have to work 10 minutes longer??

I am crying - really I am.

Where I work eveyone has had to work longer for less, like most places. Pay cuts - longer hours. We don't get any breaks - I haven't had a break for probably 10 years. Yes, I could decide to make a fuss, but I don't. Like most people. We have unions, but I don't want anything to do with them. I eat while I work. Would I go on strike - no I wouldn't. No matter what I did. I am glad you don't give a sh1t because I don't give a sh1t about people like you.

We dont need you to give a shi t about us because unlike you ,we are prepared to stand up for ourselves . You carry on being a martyr and get trampled on

[vespa]

I'm not going to be popular but personally this notion of striking is thoroughly unBritish and an unpleasant Labour Edifice. In the 70s the power of the Trade Unions reigned supreme and whilst the intent to recognize the rights of employees began at the heart of the movement, it became more about fighting a class war. The unions were anarcho-syndicalist in their attitude, fighting the system and seeking self governance and it is little wonder Thatcher sought to squash them. I'm all for rights at work and having a body to represent your concerns but using the unions to sate that human desire for struggle and conflict is not justifiable. Doctors work obscene hours and treated appallingly by the NHS yet conduct themselves with greater decorum.

The need to fight the establishment is folly, for every battle you may win you will end up losing the war in the long run. Your best bet is to find another job and accept that we cannot pick and choose our conditions of employment.

Do I think the Tube drivers have a tough job, yes and I certainly wouldn't want to do it ... but I think striking on Boxing Day is unconscionable when it will affect employees of Hospitals, Hotels and the public who have badly paid jobs to attend to as well who aren't so fortunate to be able to pick and choose when they work.

Get a grip.

You are completely entitled to your opinion and what your saying about 70s trade unionism rings quite true .
What my union do nowadays is stand up for the terms and conditions (and local agreements )that were hard fought for , not try to pick and choose them .
I dont want another job , i actually really like my job, but i want the company that i work for to abide by conditions that were agreed when my contract was signed.
I think your "get a grip " comment is uncalled for if youve read all the previous posts ,because it is us and our jobs that have been attacked by a few posters on here,and we have just defended ourselves.
Personally i think if more people were represented by unions , and if Labour had mps coming from either Trade Unions or Local government ,instead of career politicians from private schools and oxbridge then then this country would be in far better shape.

I`m not going to enter into any more debate on this subject, because i come on here for QPR chat and not politics.

[Ric-Roc]

Well this thread turned out a bundle of laughs

[vespa]

Well this thread turned out a bundle of laughs

Yeah ,i think i`m going to swerve your threads in the future !

[NW9_RANGER]

Yeah think it's been done to death now. No changing of opinions, same as always. Now back to QPR.

[kron-1664]

These lot need to realise we are not in the 1970s any more, we all have had pay freezes lost jobs, given more work whilst out bills have gone up. These lot screw up the time of year when everyone tries to have a good time all for an extra 250 quid on top of their pay that they all signed up for in the first place.

On Monday night, a London Underground (LU) spokesman said: "Despite the efforts of LU to resolve the dispute, the Aslef leadership have demanded an additional £250 for their drivers to work on Boxing Day, on top of their salaries that already include working on Boxing Day.

If any one know s any of the Scargill esque twa ts tell them they are

[kron-1664]

You are completely entitled to your opinion and what your saying about 70s trade unionism rings quite true .
What my union do nowadays is stand up for the terms and conditions (and local agreements )that were hard fought for , not try to pick and choose them .
I dont want another job , i actually really like my job, but i want the company that i work for to abide by conditions that were agreed when my contract was signed.
I think your "get a grip " comment is uncalled for if youve read all the previous posts ,because it is us and our jobs that have been attacked by a few posters on here,and we have just defended ourselves.
Personally i think if more people were represented by unions , and if Labour had mps coming from either Trade Unions or Local government ,instead of career politicians from private schools and oxbridge then then this country would be in far better shape.

I`m not going to enter into any more debate on this subject, because i come on here for QPR chat and not politics.

your idea of work is a lot different to most peoples

[vespa]

your idea of work is a lot different to most peoples

Dont know why you quoted me there, because what you wrote has no bearing on the quote whatsoever.

As NW9 said no one is going to change anyones mind on this subject , so can it be put to bed now ?

[Sminky]

You are completely entitled to your opinion and what your saying about 70s trade unionism rings quite true .
What my union do nowadays is stand up for the terms and conditions (and local agreements )that were hard fought for , not try to pick and choose them .
I dont want another job , i actually really like my job, but i want the company that i work for to abide by conditions that were agreed when my contract was signed.
I think your "get a grip " comment is uncalled for if youve read all the previous posts ,because it is us and our jobs that have been attacked by a few posters on here,and we have just defended ourselves.
Personally i think if more people were represented by unions , and if Labour had mps coming from either Trade Unions or Local government ,instead of career politicians from private schools and oxbridge then then this country would be in far better shape.

I`m not going to enter into any more debate on this subject, because i come on here for QPR chat and not politics.

I have no issue with what you have said, these are fair comments - the Get A Grip Quip was probably over icing the cake to make the point but obviously I stand by my opinion as you by yours.

You're right ... lets get back to QPR ... firstly, games on Boxing Day in London shouldn't happen. Its an issue most years and its always frustrating. As someone completely reliant on trains and tubes as a season ticket holder from yonder, I really don't like missing games simply because of public transport issues.

The Premier League ought to consider the implications of fixtures in London over Christmas or consider a Christmas break as they do on the continent.

[wicksta]

Arsenal vs West Ham game has been postponed to the 27th now.

[SpankwiR]

Arsenal vs West Ham game has been postponed to the 27th now.

Thats because most Arsenal and West Ham fans live nowhere near there clubs.

[willis1980]

Thats because most Arsenal and West Ham fans live nowhere near there clubs.

couldnt the arsenal fans just ride there on horseback after their annual boxing day hunt, their clobber would match arsenals kit too