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    We all agree his main strength is his dribbling skills. However, his passing and shooting from outside the box were horrible. I noticed he rarely goes inside the box. If Harry use him as a striker, there will be more chances for penalties and scoring as this could be a good approach to utilize his wasted skills. Worth a try? Your thoughts please?
    Last edited by Yousef; 11-12-2012, 12:07 PM.
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    Completely wasted as a striker. He never makes runs in behind the defence, his finishing isn't all that great as he tends to snatch at chances, and putting him up front wastes his passing/through-ball abilities.

    If you mean as a no10 behind a main striker with two wide players making runs ahead of him, like in the Championship winning season, then fine. But I don't think that's what you're talking about. And in any case that role wouldn't see him any nearer the box than he is now

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    • #3
      Without adel in midfield we barely get the ball in the box.

      He does need to get in the box more but his game is never to score a tap in.. he'd rather beat 3 and nutmeg the keeper.

      best way to utilise adel is on the left. keep him out there and let him drift in with the ball.
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      • #4
        And his passing outside the box is far from 'horrible'. Has half this forum developed a weird form of blindness when it comes to Adel setting up chances?

        Third most chances created in the entire league, behind only Pienaar and Suarez, whilst playing for a terrible team blah blah blah I'm sick of repeating that stat.

        Considering the circumstances, he's doing brilliantly as an attacking midfielder and also as a player generally. Why mess with that? He should be the last of our worries

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        • #5
          he is a playmaker - best play him where hs is best suited.
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          • #6
            Adel has certainly applied himself and his final ball is not working for some reason and the striker situation is bad so putting him right up top could get more goals from him.
            Except really there is no queue of players to take his current position.
            Harry might be thinking Joe Cole in AM and Adel as #10 playmaker and Mackie/Cisse at #9 to get around the striker problems and get the most from Adel.
            Thing is there are many problems in the team and Adel is far from the main one but it might be better for him not to need his team mates by pushing him further forward so his delivery is goal attempts rather than goal creation.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by zeberdee View Post
              Adel has certainly applied himself and his final ball is not working for some reason and the striker situation is bad so putting him right up top could get more goals from him.
              Except really there is no queue of players to take his current position.
              Harry might be thinking Joe Cole in AM and Adel as #10 playmaker and Mackie/Cisse at #9 to get around the striker problems and get the most from Adel.
              Thing is there are many problems in the team and Adel is far from the main one but it might be better for him not to need his team mates by pushing him further forward so his delivery is goal attempts rather than goal creation.
              His shooting is mediocre, and he's brilliant at setting up chances. Why on earth would we ask him to focus on what he's less good at?

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              • #8
                And his final ball is working fine. Can think of several easy chances he's set up for others over the past few games. Not Adel's fault that Mackie/SWP etc keep missing.

                Would you guys prefer a left-mid who just aimlessly hoofed every pass towards a striker at the back post? That would shift the blame away from the winger and towards the striker, but would be far, far less effective. If we do want someone trying creative, incisive through-balls then we have to accept that not every single one of them will work out.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Geng View Post
                  His shooting is mediocre, and he's brilliant at setting up chances. Why on earth would we ask him to focus on what he's less good at?
                  I am not advocating anything. Just discussing footy and ideas to make the best from the current resources which have failed so far to deliver in record breaking amounts.

                  So if you want to argue with someone saying Adel is **** then you need to find someone else because that is not my point.

                  It is not his fault his team mates have been so poor but if he is brilliant at setting up chances then his team mates are not taking them are they - look at the table.

                  Because it is a team game and so worth considering playing anyone where they can benefit the team most. So worth consideration. Thats it.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Geng View Post
                    And his passing outside the box is far from 'horrible'. Has half this forum developed a weird form of blindness when it comes to Adel setting up chances?

                    Third most chances created in the entire league, behind only Pienaar and Suarez, whilst playing for a terrible team blah blah blah I'm sick of repeating that stat.

                    Considering the circumstances, he's doing brilliantly as an attacking midfielder and also as a player generally. Why mess with that? He should be the last of our worries
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                    • #11
                      The problem with QPR is the type of players and the way they play. You could have one Adel in a team and that's fair enough. But we also have Diakite, Granero, Faurlin who all are very slow on the ball and play individually. You can add Houliet as well. There's no chemistry in the team. They do not play with the aggressivness that the Premier demands; rarely watch them make a one two in the opponents box. Normally, they get confused when its the final pass. Reason: we took ages to reach the opponents box, and when we do, every inch of the area is well covered. As HR said, he have to get into the players heads. But he had to do it quickly because time is running out.

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                      • #12
                        Agree Matin for hesitating around the box, but do you really think that Diakite is that slow?
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                        • #13
                          Maybe Diakite is not that slow, but surely he tries to take every opponent on his own, which apperently have the same effect!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Martinmalta View Post
                            The problem with QPR is the type of players and the way they play. You could have one Adel in a team and that's fair enough. But we also have Diakite, Granero, Faurlin who all are very slow on the ball and play individually. You can add Houliet as well. There's no chemistry in the team. They do not play with the aggressivness that the Premier demands; rarely watch them make a one two in the opponents box. Normally, they get confused when its the final pass. Reason: we took ages to reach the opponents box, and when we do, every inch of the area is well covered. As HR said, he have to get into the players heads. But he had to do it quickly because time is running out.

                            Well said. We are playing in slow motion.IMO, We Should be far more direct in our play and apart from that obviously the players havent yet get used to how to play to each others strenght. They are still not able start a two on one challenge.
                            Last edited by Shania; 12-12-2012, 10:43 AM.
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Martinmalta View Post
                              The problem with QPR is the type of players and the way they play. You could have one Adel in a team and that's fair enough. But we also have Diakite, Granero, Faurlin who all are very slow on the ball and play individually. You can add Houliet as well. There's no chemistry in the team. They do not play with the aggressivness that the Premier demands; rarely watch them make a one two in the opponents box. Normally, they get confused when its the final pass. Reason: we took ages to reach the opponents box, and when we do, every inch of the area is well covered. As HR said, he have to get into the players heads. But he had to do it quickly because time is running out.
                              Agreed, It is very slow and even then breaks down often due to unforced error and lack of understanding. Modern defences in the EPL can stop a lot better players than QPR have when building at that speed. It is not a trait you associate with Redknapp teams and it must be on his list of things to fix - but it is a long list.

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