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[Shania]

Park is still more than good enough for a premier club. IMO, he is just one of many victims of poor organization,tactics, continuity and effort from his gaffer and most of his team-mates.
You simply dont get that bad over a summer.
PS. He is not captain material because I dont think he is vocal enough. But that´s not his fault.

[MattyRangers]

Park is still more than good enough for a premier club. IMO, he is just one of many victims of poor organization,tactics, continuity and effort from his gaffer and most of his team-mates.
You simply dont get that bad over a summer.
PS. He is not captain material because I dont think he is vocal enough. But that´s not his fault.

Good post. Agree with all of that. Park is a very good player and seems to be an easy target for those that jump on this conspiracy bandwagon of "hes only here to sell shirts". As you say, he sint a captain thats for sure, but as a player he is very good.

[James1979]

You can't fault Parks work rate that's for sure. Not captain material. What we blaming the koreans for now?? What a strange bunch we are on here sometimes.

[vblockranger]

You can't fault Parks work rate that's for sure. Not captain material. What we blaming the koreans for now?? What a strange bunch we are on here sometimes.

good workrate but a shadow of the player he was for Utd, but then if he was any good we wouldnt have got him.

[Hitman34]

here is your hero park mocking his own team.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNelqGieOEg

[Norths]

here is your hero park mocking his own team.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNelqGieOEg

Seems Yousef isnt the only one to have taken that video seriously

[westsussexranger]

park is a good player he just isnt a captain or a right winger the two roles the club ludicrously gave him

[MYU]

Park is still more than good enough for a premier club. IMO, he is just one of many victims of poor organization,tactics, continuity and effort from his gaffer and most of his team-mates.
You simply dont get that bad over a summer.
PS. He is not captain material because I dont think he is vocal enough. But that´s not his fault.

It seems to me that all frustration is aimed at Park right now, the whole team is playing rubbish right now.

Park not played for a few games and we still not won a game, in fact we looked worse the last two games and he wasn't playing. I guess that was his fault as well.

Seems Yousef isnt the only one to have taken that video seriously

Exactly, say no more.

[dpmd]

Okay, I'm usually a silent reader, but this post ticks me off.

It's been just a few months since the "lightweight" football team from Korea soundly defeated team GB in the summer olympics and won the bronze.

That was a racist comment whether you knew it or not. Are you really living up to your name, Factamondo?

The fact is that Ji Sung Park has played consistently good football at the highest level for many years, and all of the teams he played for have met with great success to which Park himself contributed significantly. There is no other player at QPR for which this statement would be more true.

You are certainly entitled to your opinions regarding Park's performances so far this season, some of which in my opinion have been good, some not so much, but you are belittling perhaps the best asset your own team has. Childish, and racist as well.

Spot on. Great post and welcomd Joon.

[vblockranger]

park is a good player he just isnt a captain or a right winger the two roles the club ludicrously gave him

this is true it could be down to Hughes why he is just so ineffective or it could be that he's half the player he was and thats why Fergie sold him. Time will tell i guess. I truly believe we only got him for the same reason Manchester United originally got him..marketing in Asia. He was a great impact sub at United but has had no impact for us what so ever.

[MYU]

this is true it could be down to Hughes why he is just so ineffective or it could be that he's half the player he was and thats why Fergie sold him. Time will tell i guess. I truly believe we only got him for the same reason Manchester United originally got him..marketing in Asia. He was a great impact sub at United but has had no impact for us what so ever.

Can you please show me a player that has made an impact this year?

[Fraggy]

Joon, I think you will find that the majority of members on here have enjoyed reading your post & also agree with you.

The borderline racist remarks are being closely monitored, but we are trying to allow free debate.

There is alot of frustration flying around at the moment, due to the pathetic situation we find our beloved club in; this will of course mean that some people will post what is on their mind without thinking too deeply.
Bon was trying to play devil’s advocate; he has slowly been winning over more & more members from outside Korea by concentrating on the team as a whole on not just on Park. He was not condoning the post that you originally commented on.

By allowing a minority to dictate how you feel will alienate you from the majority of great members we have on here. We have members from all over The World (alot are ex-pats like myself), but we also have a fair few who are not but still enjoy the debate that takes part on here.

We are never going to be able to satisfy all our members, but we are always trying to find the middle ground. We also tend to use the pm function to warn members when they are over stepping the mark rather than begin a public slagging match.

I do hope that you will not be put off posting on here as I really enjoyed reading your original post. Also if you believe you are being treated unfairly, you can always pm one of our mods/admins & we will look into it straight away & take action if warranted.

Please also take into account, that most of us are lifelong supporters/fans of QPR, & this sometimes means posting with the heart & not with the head.

I also noticed that you are not posting from Korea at present & have no location on your profile; are you travelling on business/vacation currently, or are you living abroad?

[Seoul Man]

no, park is **** joon. he was only brought to qpr because of millions of your country people worship him like some god.

Thank you Hitman for sharing your understanding of how you believe Koreans think of Park. I respectfully disagree with your assessment and I wish to simply convey to you that most Koreans would find your description laughable. Like all intelligent human beings in every corner of this world would assume, few people would be truly ignorant enough to actually believe "worshiping" another human being in the way you have conceived it would be normal or even sane.

Park is admired by millions here in Korea, not worshiped. He is admired here for the very same reasons he (and extraordinary people like him) is admired by others outside of Korea--because of the content of his character he has shown against the odds and what he as achieved as an Asian footballer in Europe. Koreans admire him because we know that life has forced him to be the underdog. We know that he has suffered greatly and endured. In his own country, Park started his football career with little support from the Korea's National Football team and management. Ironically, it was only when Guus Hiddink became the country's national coach that Park was even given a chance. Park proved his doubters wrong and helped the Korean National team reach the 2002 World Cup semi-finals under Hiddink. When Park moved to PSV, he was put in an even more difficult circumstances in all the ways you could imagine in a foreign land. The local doubters grew in numbers and in force and Park was viciously ridiculed and put down by teammates and fans alike. The jeers, the taunts, the racism he endured for years. But he did not quit for the love of country and the love of football. Park proved himself again but this time in the top flight of Dutch football and in the Champions League against AC Milan in his final year. At Man Utd. he again surprised us all by not being the Asian shirt selling flop many assumed he would be.

Koreans find it amusing that Park instead of sitting back and enjoying the fruits of his hard earned successes at this stage of his career has decided quite unbelievably to risk it all by putting himself squarely in football's road to Damascus. We cringe for what he has to go through again at QPR. The guy has been through enough for one lifetime. And it is indeed sad to see him slated by some QPR fans here. Nonetheless we respect Park and his choice to be here--to end his hard earned illustrious football career with QPR in what looks like his biggest challenge as a footballer thus far. Once again Park finds himself in a difficulty nobody would want to be in. An unwitting rejected captain and put there as an example for team play in a team that more than anything needs to be unselfish to succeed. QPR is now dead last and I believe this is because there is an obvious unwillingness to gel as a team under Hughes direction and the problem it seems is not Hughes. Disgruntled players not getting their due or respect in the way they expect is a familiar story and if I am correct equity theory would say that for the players who believe they are the ones who got QPR into the top flight (given the financial implications of their contribution) the perceived differences how TF and the management have shown to players like Park would be the grounds to a seething revolt. The way Park has been treated by these groups of players can be explained by this perception of inequity.

More importantly, the losses in part may indeed be down to the injuries or a bit of bad luck as some have said, but one could just as well hypothesize that for too many games in a row the obviously amateurish, half-hearted displays in defence in particular is a tad too consistent to be explained away in any other way, for such laxity in player concentration (or the coincidental number of yellow and then red cards that some players have chosen recklessly to risk) could hardly be explained by the usual run-of-the-mill explanations at this level in the top flight. There is something seriously foul smelling at the center of this.

My suspicion is that Hughes has had a small mutiny on his hands since the get go--the Asia tour when Park was treated like a rock star in those countries--the earlier stripping Taarabt of his number 7 jersey to the irk of his fans and making Park captain was the last straw for a core faction in the team and Hughes is now paying for it. Regardless, whether such speculation is true or not, Park is yet again in a most precarious position and the question for the fans here is--will he be able to overcome the odds and perhaps make his greatest mark in football by helping turn QPR fortunes into the kind of success TF and the management know is possible.

I for one believe that Mark Hughes should have the full backing of TF and the QPR board til the very end of this season. If certain players believe continuing to not to gel is in their best interest as a way to get rid of Hughes, I believe it would be a serious mistake to allow this to happen.

QPR has come to a critical crossroads. The very future of the Club is at stake in this crisis and it appears not to be what it seems to be on the surface.

May TF and the board choose wisely.

[vblockranger]

I for one believe that Mark Hughes should have the full backing of TF and the QPR board til the very end of this season. In iterated games as an analogy given a certain game theory payoff structure, players who choose to defect are choosing suboptimal outcomes for both parties. In QPR's situation such players should not be rewarded for defecting for they will continue to defect against the interest of the Team. In a strange kind of way of bringing stability to the team, I believe Joey Barton was a force to reign in such personalities in the team previously. The gelling problems surfaced when the Barton vacuum was created. If Barton does not return and if certain players believe continuing to not to gel is in their interest, the only solution would be to bring in more professionals who play for the team.

QPR has come to a critical crossroads. The very future of the Club is at stake in this crisis at hand and it appears not to be what it seems on the surface.

May TF and the board choose wisely,

Park and QPR admirers in Korea.

Stick to supporting and following your man around from club to club and leave the team supporting to those that care more about the team than an individual. To me you are nothing more than an away fan commenting on QPR from the outside. Your comment on giving Hughes more time proves that you know very little about football in this country.

[MYU]

Stick to supporting and following your man around from club to club and leave the team supporting to those that care more about the team than an individual. To me you are nothing more than an away fan commenting on QPR from the outside. Your comment on giving Hughes more time proves that you know very little about football in this country.

Why are you telling people what they should be doing or who they should be supporting?

Let everyone have an opinion, I found your post to be quite rude if I'm honest.