Hughes has been successful at other clubs. So what has gone wrong at QPR?

[vblockranger]

I dont buy this he just **** argument. So lets try and work it out.

I think our transfer policy under fernandes has allot to do with it.

As in we have bought a set of mercurial players on vast wages that have no hunger or desire to do well and do not even respect Hughes enough to give more than 75% per game.

[Cookie Monster]

As in we have bought a set of mercurial players on vast wages that have no hunger or desire to do well and do not even respect Hughes enough to give more than 75% per game.

Precisely. That policy didnt begin hughes though (anton swp) and im not sutre it would end if we got rid of him

[vblockranger]

Precisely. That policy didnt begin hughes though (anton swp) and im not sutre it would end if we got rid of him

Cesar,Green,Onhua,Bosingwa,Fabio,Hoilett, Diakitte,Mbia,Granero,AJ,Zamora,Cisse,Park...all MH players and make up the bulk of the 11 he puts out. His players,he brought them and he cant get them to perform.

[pblockranger]

Remind me what he won at either Blackburn or Fulham ?

[Cookie Monster]

Remind me what he won at either Blackburn or Fulham ?

Lol. You can be sucessful with out winning anything. But taking Blackburn to suxth and seventh and Fulham to tenth i think was widely accepted as very sucessful.

[Cookie Monster]

Remind me what he won at either Blackburn or Fulham ?

But no I take you point, Arenext manager has to have won the champions league otherwise we just arent showing ambition as a club...

[Cookie Monster]

Cesar,Green,Onhua,Bosingwa,Fabio,Hoilett, Diakitte,Mbia,Granero,AJ,Zamora,Cisse,Park...all MH players and make up the bulk of the 11 he puts out. His players,he brought them and he cant get them to perform.

To be fair... I think Diakitte, Hoilett and granero, cesar have been very good signings. And have been some of our best performers.

Jury is out on m'bia

More worried about park, bosingwa and Zamora

[Cookie Monster]

The point im trying to make that is getting bogged down in the detail.

Is that there are reasons that we are not suceeding that go beyond the manager.

That doesnt mean that Hughes is not guilty of getting things. But that a new manager may not simply solve these problems and lead to instant sucess.

[W13 Exile]

Sounds like the players don't want Hughes around otherwise they would roll their sleeves up and put a shift in like last season?

[NW_Hoopz]

Sounds like the players don't want Hughes around otherwise they would roll their sleeves up and put a shift in like last season?

Hi ya Mr W13, I'm coming down next week for Jonny H's birthday so I'll see ya at the game ............ The Welsh Git better pull something out of the bag or he'll have to sleep in the changing rooms ! Cause I get a bit narky when I've had a beer or 8 don't I :yush:

[W13 Exile]

You said it, there could be a lot of old grumpy men about next week, better hope we don't meet any Brentford knobs who want to rub it in :yush:

[Yousef]

The biggest mistake at the club is brining players based on ruptation and we ended up signing mercenaries and money salves with no desire to play.

[TBLOCKRANGER]

This is it MH fault or the players, my view is it is defo MH.

Just take summer everyone who had any knowledge of QPR knew our weaknesses were as follows following from last seasons miracle escape.
1. Improve the defence (complete overhaul)
2. Get a proper striker or two in
3. Holding midfield player
4. Sort out our discipline issues

Those were our priorities and MH never dealt with any of them instead
1. Defenders brought in at last minute as panic signings
2. Everyone knew AJ was a sick note but MH wanted to build his team round him, as to BZ foolem couldn't of been any happier. At least MH could have got one big signing upfront.
3. Completey ignored and now we don't understand why teams simply run through us
4. Discipline, argument can a manager legislate for players losing it, I say yes if it occurs regularly. He was suppose to bring in high tech backroom staff but we instead get loads of injuries and players lashing out for no reason.

Tactically MH is inept, JB only came off last season against Liverpool because of the fans that's the only good technical substation he has made.

I don't know what tactics we play, it's just school football at times plus MH is directly linked to our transfer policy. HIS,en we're in place to deal with transfers this isn't a case where the chairman was signing players behind the managers back or a football of director at odds with the manager dealing with transfers.

[MattyRangers]

When was Hughes successful?

Took Blackbrn over in a relegation fight and got them to finish 6th in the league and thus a place in the UEFA Cup. Took them to 3 domestic cup semi finals.

Had 1 season at Foolham and they finished 8th.

Pretty sucessful IMO.

[TBLOCKRANGER]

i wouldnt say he was a successful manager but his track record was a good manager. Never messed up a team he was at prior to coming to us. Even at a top end club like Citeh he held his own. When he signed for us even though I opposed it, i never thought he would be so awful, i just didnt like what he represented the suits, the clinical approach to management, the agents etc but i am amazed had how awful he has been.

The concern is even if he leaves what he will have left behind is so bad, its a hospital path for any successor.

I think we are in a worse position now both position and squad wise than when Warnock left.