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[QPR Richard]

Dear Tony. You wish to keep Hughes as the manager, fair enough, but let me pick the ****ing team please

[vblockranger]

So Ginge and Del...if we are bottom 3 at Xmas with say under 10 points...you still want Hughes to stay till end of season? just asking and am not having a pop lads.

[qpr]

Hughes is here to stay, the players are working hard in training, there may be a couple of ins and outs in January, didn't see all the interview, but Hughes has TFs total support, and won't be swayed by the fans or media.

Wasn't that what happened at Blackburn? Didn't turn out well.

Only thing I will say is at least we're playing decent football so it's not all doom & gloom

[Ginger Ninja]

So Ginge and Del...if we are bottom 3 at Xmas with say under 10 points...you still want Hughes to stay till end of season? just asking and am not having a pop lads.

yes, and thats partly because with less than 10 points at xmas i dont think there's any manager that could keep us up.
and if we do get relegated id still stick with hughes and give him a chance to get us back into the premier league.
call me nuts, but maybe taking a step back to go 2 steps forward is a good thing in the long run.

[vblockranger]

Wasn't that what happened at Blackburn? Didn't turn out well.

Only thing I will say is at least we're playing decent football so it's not all doom & gloom

At least we are not getting hammered week in and week out. All close games so there is still hope.

[stainrodisalegend]

Wasn't that what happened at Blackburn? Didn't turn out well.

Only thing I will say is at least we're playing decent football so it's not all doom & gloom

didn't work out too well under flavio when we sacked the manager every two minutes either. if you are casting around for comparisons, all the evidence suggests that clubs that stick with managers do better than those that sack them.

[Mellowhoop]

I think we should stick with Hughes...we arnt far away. The biggest problem was the expectations of us to cruise to the top half of the table... He wont get sacked before Xmas imo... Yes we have been poor but I think we will turn the corner on Saturday.

[californiahoop]

So in other words TF is not prepared to shell out to get rid of Hughes and the backroom staff or TF is just one of them businessmen who cannot accept he has made a mistake. We are fast becoming a laughing stock...again.

You sure mate?

[twranger]

didn't work out too well under flavio when we sacked the manager every two minutes either. if you are casting around for comparisons, all the evidence suggests that clubs that stick with managers do better than those that sack them.

Too right - seem to recall, not that long ago Moyes was in the doo doo at Everton and they stuck with him - now look at them. Thats just one example, sure there are others....

[Mellowhoop]

Its not as if its a nobody managing the club... He's got experience in the league....done well at other clubs... The players are nervous.. One win and watch us flourish

[essex]

Look at the last 3 games, a draw against a decent everton side (only because of a goal off cesars back), were unlucky not to get a point against the gooners and should have had all 3 on sunday. If they were the first 3 games of the season i dont think anyone would be calling for Hughes to be sacked. Stoke is a tough away fixture would take a draw there. But southampton has to be all 3 points

[twranger]

So in other words TF is not prepared to shell out to get rid of Hughes and the backroom staff or TF is just one of them businessmen who cannot accept he has made a mistake. We are fast becoming a laughing stock...again.

Be more of a laughing stock IF we sacked Hughes (IMO). Remember we have a history of constant hiring and firing of mangers - sticking with Hughes might actually have the opposite effect and give the club a bit of respect amongst the ousiders who in the past have been quick to mock our managerial policy.

[Del]

So Ginge and Del...if we are bottom 3 at Xmas with say under 10 points...you still want Hughes to stay till end of season? just asking and am not having a pop lads.

We're not talking about xmas, that's a long way and a lot of potential points away from now. At this time it is wrong to suggest all fans want TF to get rid of MH because they don't. If we are still in a woeful position at Xmas ask me the question then and i'll answer on merit based on the performances, and circumstances in the games up until then.

As it stands now, we haven't had what we've deserved, based on bad decisions, and the quality of our play. This would suggest the current situation is not just because of the manager.

[brightonr]

It is very easy to knock Hughes and to be fair, some of his decisions make it even easier to do so. So I watched the edited coverage from the Sky programme from last night and guess what. We looked so much more threatening than they did and were clearly the better side, by some distance. Although we should be, so not exactly much to get excited over. It didn't seem like it at the ground yesterday, probably because of the total frustration of things just not quite going our way.

I personally do not think Redknapp is the answer and pray to God we don't get to find out. I was reminded of "his achievement" only last night by a Spurs fan on the radio. Whilst defending AVB from completely unfair criticism from certain other Spurs fans, he quite rightly pointed out that AVB's record in their last 10 games as a manager new to the club, was far superior to Redknap's last 10 games, which saw them capitulate from an almost guaranteed 3rd place, to not being in the CL due to events elsewhere. One of those games, we all watched, as we completely outplayed them whilst getting all the points. And dear old 'Arry had been there almost 4 years.

If I were TF, I would probably do exactly the same as he is doing. I would be looking at say another 7 games and if we fail to get 9 points from them at the very least, then get rid. He could then do so with every justification and there could be no complaints from anybody that Hughes wasn't given a fair crack of the whip. Unfortunately, not being TF, but just another fan like the rest of you on here, the hurt, pain and frustration is way above what TF can possibly be experiencing. He is therefore making his decisions with far less emotion and I think we should back his judgement and him as a chairman, regardless of what happens. After all, if after 17 games, as long as we are not miles adrift, it should not be a problem to rectify for a decent manager as even the inept Hughes "kept us up" last season.

[stainrodisalegend]

Here's a question: think its fair to say that the appointment of Hughes was welcomed by 90/95% of posters on here, as near to total agreement as you are ever going to get on a message board. just about everyone agreed that his cv and standing in the game was head and shoulders above every other name we cd realistically attract. Yet now many fans are accusing our owner (you know, the one who bought you the most expensive squad in our history, whose every arrival had you all drooling) is clueless and knows nothing about football because he refuses to sack the manager in less than a year.

So here's the question, if you were Man U fans wd you have sacked Fergie when he had a terrible first year at Utd? Wd you have sacked Moyes when he went through his really bad spell? Wd you have sacked Curbishley at Charlton because "he had taken the club as far as he could go"? Wd you have sacked rednapp at Spurs because he had under-achieved? I'm just asking if you can name several examples where sacking the manager has brought about instant and sustained improvement? Even Sunderland, where O'Neil looked an inspired appointment, are probably now lower in the table than when he took over. Newcastle is one of the few examples I can see where it has worked - oh, and by the way, Geordie fans accused their owner of being clueless.