Im going to put my head on the line

[SammyKojoe]

Im sorry - But you said waste of a place.

I need someone who Isnt - DJ etc may at most make the bench, and get a run. As will Hogan at some points.Next...

But he won't get a run! That is the point. He won't play ahead of all the other options we have as we have so many. That is not his fault but even Faurlin cannot get any minutes.

Please tell me when you think he will play????

[SammyKojoe]

Based on him not playing or ever going to play it is a waste of a place. That place could have gone to DJ Campbell where we are limited up front with options.

[qpr4life]

But he won't get a run! That is the point. He won't play ahead of all the other options we have as we have so many. That is not his fault but even Faurlin cannot get any minutes.

Please tell me when you think he will play????

Im not the one arguing about Hogan being in the 25 - You are. Im happy he is there.

Your the one who is meant to tell ME who is better off taking that place

- Someone WHO WILL PLAY
- Someone who will possibly earn his spot. (A mackie type...)

[vblockranger]

Im not the one arguing about Hogan being in the 25 - You are. Im happy he is there.

Your the one who is meant to tell ME who is better off taking that place

- Someone WHO WILL PLAY
- Someone who will possibly earn his spot. (A mackie type...)

ffs...Dj,Young,Bothroyd...how many more you want? no matter how many names your given tho you just wont have it so its a pointless argument. If you think Hogan will play and will earn his spot in the team then nothing no one says looks like to convince you otherwise. All about opinions. And yours seems to be that all is great and we have great players playing some great football.....deluded.

[stanistheman]

Sorry but ... How can you say he is 'Utter waste of place'

- So strong
- So unfair

Some fans allow themselves to get a bad name, I just feel this sort of comment is totally ridiculous.

I say that because he is taking the place of a player who has a realistic chance of making an appearance.

Young would have played at least 1 game by now had he been in the squad, He can play at left back which would have meant no place there for Hill against West Ham and West Brom when his lack of pace was exposed and cost QPR any points from games that could have been won.

Ephraim is also in the squad ahead of Campbell who would probably at least got to make an appearance from the bench.

When is Ephraim likely to be used?

[qpr4life]

ffs...Dj,Young,Bothroyd...how many more you want? no matter how many names your given tho you just wont have it so its a pointless argument. If you think Hogan will play and will earn his spot in the team then nothing no one says looks like to convince you otherwise. All about opinions. And yours seems to be that all is great and we have great players playing some great football.....deluded.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTFO...e=results_main

Sorry was this you?

[qpr4life]

I say that because he is taking the place of a player who has a realistic chance of making an appearance.

Young would have played at least 1 game by now had he been in the squad, He can play at left back which would have meant no place there for Hill against West Ham and West Brom when his lack of pace was exposed and cost QPR any points from games that could have been won.

Ephraim is also in the squad ahead of Campbell who would probably at least got to make an appearance from the bench.

When is Ephraim likely to be used?

What a stupid argument - 1 game!?

Im sorry - I dont see the difference.

Id would rather a young player get a go than Luke Young.

[SammyKojoe]

I say that because he is taking the place of a player who has a realistic chance of making an appearance.

Young would have played at least 1 game by now had he been in the squad, He can play at left back which would have meant no place there for Hill against West Ham and West Brom when his lack of pace was exposed and cost QPR any points from games that could have been won.

Ephraim is also in the squad ahead of Campbell who would probably at least got to make an appearance from the bench.

When is Ephraim likely to be used?

Perfectly put. As for your question "When will Ephraim be used?" He avoids that question as he has no answer to it!

[qpr4life]

Perfectly put. As for your question "When will Ephraim be used?" He avoids that question as he has no answer to it!

Im not avoiding it Sammy.

Im saying Im pleased he is in the 25 - He may play he may not.

You are the guy who is arguing against it.

You are giving examples that are no better off

[SammyKojoe]

What a stupid argument - 1 game!?

Im sorry - I dont see the difference.

Id would rather a young player get a go than Luke Young.

At least one game. And had we had a fit full back playing in the West Brom game we might well have won it.

And for the hundreth time he won't get a go as he won't play!! How hard is that to comprehend? I can also tell you are not a lawyer 9-5.

[stanistheman]

spot on Sammy.... Hogan is a waste of a place in the 25 man squad. Nothing against the lad but he would do far better for himself if he went on loan to some Champ/league 1 club to get some games.

That's what I was getting at.

I don't dislike him but he has so many better players in the squad who are likely to make it onto the pitch during the game. the squad has 25 places, Ephraim is taking one of these ahead of another defender i.e. Young who without shadow of a doubt would have played some part of a game so far this season or another striker Campbell.

Some may think that Ephraim can play as a striker, well obviously Hughes does not as he would surely have made it on as a sub by now.

[qpr4life]

At least one game. And had we had a fit full back playing in the West Brom game we might well have won it.

And for the hundreth time he won't get a go as he won't play!! How hard is that to comprehend? I can also tell you are not a lawyer 9-5.

Look - I dont care what you say.

Luke Young wouldnt make the team - Plus a lot of people probably even you thought he was **** and the same goes for Bothroyd.

All im saying is im glad Hogan has a chance to play and may well get a chance. THAT IS ALL.

I dont need to agree with you or not

Also stop using silly little catch phrases.

Its madness

[SammyKojoe]

Look - I dont care what you say.

Luke Young wouldnt make the team - Plus a lot of people probably even you thought he was **** and the same goes for Bothroyd.

All im saying is im glad Hogan has a chance to play and may well get a chance. THAT IS ALL.

I dont need to agree with you or not

Also stop using silly little catch phrases.

Its madness

Are you calling me Roy Walker?

[vblockranger]

Look - I dont care what you say.

Luke Young wouldnt make the team - Plus a lot of people probably even you thought he was **** and the same goes for Bothroyd.

All im saying is im glad Hogan has a chance to play and may well get a chance. THAT IS ALL.

I dont need to agree with you or not

Also stop using silly little catch phrases.

Its madness

but thats the point..you dont care what anyone says or what anybody else's opinions might be. You have a hard on for Hogan and thats that. So why go on about it if you refuse to listen? like arguing with a 5 year old. Mind you i just looked at your twitter link and you dont look much past 15 so probably best if we just agree to disagree and you go back to your lego BigChrisC

[stanistheman]

What a stupid argument - 1 game!?

Im sorry - I dont see the difference.

Id would rather a young player get a go than Luke Young.

What's so stupid?

Young is a better left back than Hill and would have played by now. Also a young 'homegrown' players don't count as part of the 25 man squad, so Hughes can select them anytime he chooses, but he does not seem to rate them.

As we have all pointed out to you (but you seem unable to accept) Ephraim is in the squad as a midfielder. He has Diakite, Granero, Park, Faurlin, Taarabt, Hoilett, SWP and Mackie who are all ahead of him in the pecking order for a game.

If Campbell had been selected for the squad, there is a realistic chance that who could play a part in games as QPR only have Zamora, Cisse as real strikers and perhaps Hoilett, Mackie and to a lesser extent Taarabt who can play as supporting strikers.