Im going to put my head on the line

[vblockranger]

Im sorry, but are you reading my posts correctly?

I clearly started this thread explaining how I strongly believe MH is a good manager and will take us higher up the table.

WE HAVE A VERY VERY GOOD SQUAD....

After asking many QPR fans (Older especially) They clearly state although many years ago we managed to compete at the top, the squad we have today is very good. Lots of money has been put into this team it is just struggling to win games.

When I said dont Include history, I mean base it on the players and the potential.

Times have changed and footballers have become better IMO -

think we have 6 or 7 good prem players in our whole squad but under supervision of mediocre manager.

[qpr4life]

think we have 6 or 7 good prem players in our whole squad but under supervision of mediocre manager.

i'll stick my head on the line again and say...

Our 25 Man squad has NO players not worthy of playing in the premier league

Derry and Hill are the only casualties if you had to pick some

[qpr4life]

So has the competition - so it is all relative. Relative to the opposition - we certainly DO NOT have the best squad we have ever had.

I have watched far better in my lifetime as well as far worse.

I guess its based on opinion this. Which is fair enough...

And in actual fact im not old enough to compare the cup winning team to this... I see footage and hear stories.

Im saying Adel, Granero etc are fine exciting young players.

[stanistheman]

Can we really compare these two seasons

Totally different times with totally different situations.

surely this squad (on paper... etc) Is the best we HAVE EVER had.

I am fully aware of the past and I am fully aware of what we DID achieve. But the potential and backing we have now is surely better than we have had.

With this, regardless of playing well our squad is too good to go down.

Maybe we cant really compare the two seasons exactly, but in that season, QPR lost 15 games by the odd goal and were often described as unlucky.

That team had some defensive issues and a lack of goals scored - both resulting in 'unlucky' losses and we are witnessing some similar issues now.

QPR clearly have a better manager in Hughes, but as long as he keeps selecting SWP, I will have little faith in him turning things around.

For me SWP's performances tell me he is finished as an effective Premier League player. His stats for goals scored or assists are nowhere near good enough. He shows little confidence or ability to go past the full back and or deliver a good cross. So as a winger this renders him is ineffective. If Hughes wants a right sided midfielder he can select Park which he did against Everton and probably would have for Saturday. But SWP is not a right sided midfielder so should not be used as cover for Park.

Hughes has far better options for when Park is unavailable, by changing formation to play either 4-3-1 with three proper midfielders i.e Diakite, Granero and Faurlin. Or he can select a 4-4-2 with a diamond formation using Taarabt as the attacking point behind Zamora and Holiett or Cisse. Or use Taarabt and Hoilett as wingers in a more traditional 4-4-2 (just as he doesn't include SWP).

The other worrying aspect about Hughes seems to be the lack of ability to attack or defend at set pieces (do they work on these in training - not according to the Mirror article with Mbia).

I do really hope that Hughes gets it right and this has been a torrid time due to having had tough games against Man City, Chelsea, Tottenham, Arsenal, another derby against West Ham, and even a difficult away game at an improving West Brom, whilst having a lot of defensive injuries, but he cannot keep using these as excuses if QPR don't go on a decent run now. November will be the month that decides his fate.

[silvercue]

For me SWP's performances tell me he is finished as an effective Premier League player. His stats for goals scored or assists are nowhere near good enough.

Hughes has far better options for when Park is unavailable, by changing formation to play either 4-3-1 with three proper midfielders .

So you don't think stats of zero and zero are that good hey? You have a point.

As for 4-3-1, that must be plan B, because plan A appears to be get sent off. It means we know wat to do when we are down to 9 men.

[Busheyboy]

I always remember people saying Notts Forest were too good to go down (the season they did)
the clock is ticking

[stanistheman]

i'll stick my head on the line again and say...

Our 25 Man squad has NO players not worthy of playing in the premier league

Derry and Hill are the only casualties if you had to pick some

Don't forget the utter waste of a place in there for Ephraim. I would also say that SWP is no longer Premier League quality and have doubts about whether the injury prone Dyer should be include in the squad (Young would have been a far better option)

[qpr4life]

Don't forget the utter waste of a place in there for Ephraim. I would also say that SWP is no longer Premier League quality and have doubts about whether the injury prone Dyer should be include in the squad (Young would have been a far better option)

Sorry but ... How can you say he is 'Utter waste of place'

- So strong
- So unfair

Some fans allow themselves to get a bad name, I just feel this sort of comment is totally ridiculous.

[SammyKojoe]

Sorry but ... How can you say he is 'Utter waste of place'- So strong
- So unfair

Some fans allow themselves to get a bad name, I just feel this sort of comment is totally ridiculous.

Erm think the question is how is he not an utter waste of a place. I remember you singing his praises when he made the 25 saying he might make a difference this season. I laughed then and still laugh now. I bet you can't even tell me his best position? That is cause he does not know himself.

He will never get any minutes and is lucky to make the bench and if he does that he has 1 or two better players on the bench ahead of him in a midfield postion. Given we concede goals and don't score many perhaps another defender or striker would have been better suited in the 25 than someone who is never going to play? Common sense no?

[qpr4life]

Erm think the question is how is he not an utter waste of a place. I remember you singing his praises when he made the 25 saying he might make a difference this season. I laughed then and still laugh now. I bet you can't even tell me his best position? That is cause he does not know himself.

He will never get any minutes and is lucky to make the bench and if he does that he has 1 or two better players on the bench ahead of him in a midfield postion. Given we concede goals and don't score many perhaps another defender or striker would have been better suited in the 25 than someone who is never going to play? Common sense no?

Yes; I sang his praises then...

A waste of space is totally ******** and way over the top! End off!

Best position is Right Wing - (I could easily see him playing well as a striker however)

Some players wont play this season - Common sense??? Honestly... what a load of waffle.

[SammyKojoe]

Yes; I sang his praises then...

A waste of space is totally ******** and way over the top! End off!

Best position is Right Wing - (I could easily see him playing well as a striker however)

Some players wont play this season - Common sense??? Honestly... what a load of waffle.

Learn to read fella. Never referred to him as a waste of space. I said he is a waste of a place. Yes i accept your apology.

So if he won't play this season as you mention then how is he not a waste of a place in the 25 man squad?? Would it not be better to include a player who might actually play instead of Hogan who won't? Even you must be able to see that someone who would play is of more value than someone who won't in a squad. Yes that is common sense.

[TRING-RANGER]

we have to keep faith in him to do the job he is paid to do ,(and keep us up)

but in the long run i would like to see him gone, to aloof and seems to lack any passion for the club ,

[qpr4life]

Learn to read fella. Never referred to him as a waste of space. I said he is a waste of a place. Yes i accept your apology.

So if he won't play this season as you mention then how is he not a waste of a place in the 25 man squad?? Would it not be better to include a player who might actually play instead of Hogan who won't? Even you must be able to see that someone who would play is of more value than someone who won't in a squad. Yes that is common sense.

Waste of a place - waste of space?? Whatsa the difference in your eyes... You dont rate the guy. So no I wont be saying sorry man, jheeez.

He may play he may not. But at the end of the day. Its going to take someone VERY SPECIAL to break into the first team.

Our midfield is 'on paper' great

[vblockranger]

Waste of a place - waste of space?? Whatsa the difference in your eyes... You dont rate the guy. So no I wont be saying sorry man, jheeez.

He may play he may not. But at the end of the day. Its going to take someone VERY SPECIAL to break into the first team.

Our midfield is 'on paper' great

lol very special as in has the confidence and the ability to take a shot on goal and hit the target or someone who is able to defend a set piece.

[SammyKojoe]

Waste of a place - waste of space?? Whatsa the difference in your eyes... You dont rate the guy. So no I wont be saying sorry man, jheeez.

He may play he may not. But at the end of the day. Its going to take someone VERY SPECIAL to break into the first team.

Our midfield is 'on paper' great

Well they are spelt differently for one. Also a waste of space suggests i know the guy on a personal level or that he is a worthless human being. A waste of a place simply means his spot could have gone to someone who could actually play and help the team. I don't know much about you mate but i have ruled out rocket scientist as your daily profession.