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  • #16
    I wish you saw what I had to witness today. Performances are just getting worse each week now.
    First game: Arsenal vs Queen's Park Rangers at Highbury, Saturday 17th November 1984.

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    • #17
      Bushranger1982

      That last line is laughable mate.

      If? If? He should of been doing that from the start & it gets worse every week

      if me auntie had b*llox she'd be me uncle!!!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Jimmy Rabbit View Post
        Bushranger1982

        That last line is laughable mate.

        If? If? He should of been doing that from the start & it gets worse every week

        if me auntie had b*llox she'd be me uncle!!!
        That's not strictly true, your auntie could be a gay transvestite.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by djp View Post
          That's not strictly true, your auntie could be a gay transvestite.
          Jimmys auntie is a gay transvestite?......he's just found out?.....could today get any worse?

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Jimmy Rabbit View Post
            Bushranger1982

            That last line is laughable mate.

            If? If? He should of been doing that from the start & it gets worse every week

            if me auntie had b*llox she'd be me uncle!!!
            Jimmy Rabbit.
            Laugh all you like, but the defence today was as bad as it has been since Swansea, to say it has got worse with each passing week, is a bit melodramatic to say the least.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by W12_Ranger View Post
              I can completely understand the reactions and the panic amongst the supporters of our club at the moment. The manager without a doubt has to be held accountable for what is going wrong on the pitch at the moment. However in my opinion Mark Hughes simply cannot be removed from his position as manager of this club despite what appears to be a very difficult season ahead and one which may end in relegation.

              Since arriving at the club an awful lot of work behind the scenes has been going on to take this club forward. From the bottom up the whole club has been restructured. Mark Hughes appointment is about more than just what happens on the pitch in my opinion the impression that I get is he actively involved in some of the decision making for the business itself. We hear a lot of positive things coming out of the club behind-the-scenes since Fernandes has come in and appointed Hughes but we are just not getting it right on the pitch at present but that can change. In the short term it is clearly not working but the appointment of Mark Hughes in the long term in my opinion would be good for the club. I want stability more than anything else and the only person to get the best out of the current group of players is the current manager because they are all virtually his signings. Appointing another manager at this stage poses too much risk to the future of the club. Where ever he has gone Mark Hughes has been a slow starter. However the man has Premiership pedigree, his previous jobs underline that fact. Should he lose his job at our club he will come back stronger than ever in the future I have no doubt about that you only have to look at the likes of Alan Pardew before he become Newcastle manager and where he is now. Mark Hughes has brought too much personnel in to enable another manager to come in and successfully take over the squad without making more major changes. The likes of Harry Redknapp are incapable of operating without a big budget and for a club or our size could end up sinking us into more trouble as they attempt to stamp their authority over the club.

              I am as disappointed as the next man about this season and to be honest could barely bring myself to watch the game today. I've been quoted a number of times recently stating my football team are ruining my life at present. However I realise this, these things can take time and there is no point getting on the managers and players backs. The best thing we can do is show the club we as supporters are prepared to dig deep despite everything which is going on around us and hopefully this positivity has an impact on the team.

              We are in a relegation battle this season we need to except that. I do believe this manager will get it right on the pitch and we have already seen evidence of this in our last five home games last season that when it really matters he can get the players to perform for him. To analyse where is all gone wrong I think we all agree it lays with the defence. You build from the back it's the golden rule and he has failed to do this. We need to go back to basics and if it means parking the bus then that's what we need to do.

              So despite not agreeing with tactics, team selections and formations I am in the camp "he got us in this mess, let him get us out"...I suspect not many are with me at present but be careful what you wish for, this could all be turned around in a matter of matches...it just might click but we if we behave in a reactive manner to situations all the time the downward spiral may only really begin once Hughes in gone. The past ten months hard work may be about to lead to ten years of stability or if he goes ten years of decline. The Board still seem to think they have the right man and when he first took the job so did the majority of us.

              So IMO Hughes has to stay

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              • #22
                Agree with you W12.

                Long term he has to stay and he will keep us up.

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                • #23
                  My uncle Debbie is a staunch R so have a little respect please. Thanks.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by HammersmithR View Post
                    I wish you saw what I had to witness today. Performances are just getting worse each week now.
                    Totally agree. Easy to say keep Hughes and give him time. But those that were there today saw players who looked bored/not interested and most importantly not wanting to play for Hughes. You can give him as much time as you want but those things are not fixable. I was also on the fence regarding Hughes before today. But after seeing that today his time is up. It was abysmal. A terrible performance.



                    Heard today also that big time unrest in the dressing room. Players want to play a certain way and Hughes is not allowing them. A certain Traore was mentioned as a disruptive influence.

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                    • #25
                      he has to go before its too late

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by HammersmithR View Post
                        I wish you saw what I had to witness today. Performances are just getting worse each week now.
                        Not the game I saw...........first half poor defensively yes but second half we were the better side and should have drawn level on 2 occasions and then again with the last kick of the game, certainly a better all round performance than West Ham game !

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Kit View Post
                          Not the game I saw...........first half poor defensively yes but second half we were the better side and should have drawn level on 2 occasions and then again with the last kick of the game, certainly a better all round performance than West Ham game !
                          Rose tinted specs come to mind !!

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by scuberry View Post
                            Rose tinted specs come to mind !!
                            No rose tinted specs here, we are bottom of the league but had Bosingwa stuck away the last kick of the game we would have been talking about a fantastic comeback, albeit camouflaging our defending. I still believe we should stick with Hughes and if we can stop the school boy defending we will start winning games.

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                            • #29
                              Some of the fans on here have not got a clue about football, agree about first half poor and I was one that thought enough is enough, but MH proved that he is still in control of the players got them up for the second half made some changes, and the players gave it a real go, I don't know what game some of you were watching in the second half, it is just the defence he has problems with.

                              We have to stick with him for the rest of the season, I am sure he will sort it out, also too much of a upheavel, and we would have another few months with a new manager trying to find the right balance, also we don't need Redknapp, look at the end of his Spurs management stint, he had trouble getting results.

                              Also you would have to ask why did spurs off load him, there is no smoke without fire.

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                              • #30
                                I really hoped MH could turn it around, but it’s not going to happen. First half was poor, second half a lot better, and yes could have possibly nicked a point. But is nicking a point at WBA enough? I’m sorry he has to go now, any other walk of life / profession (mine included); I would be fired, if performance is not up to scratch. I think the only thing keeping him in the job, is his entourage, the cost of getting rid of the all of them would be costly. But either that or Barnsley away August 22nd 2013............

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