Every true R should watch this

[Stanley]

I missed the callin tonight, Mike Rigg seems to be the man at the club running everything behind the scenes, gives you confidence listening to him. Think we need to keep things as they are from the manager down for now, cause this fella knows his stuff,.......very interesting .... thanks Stanley.

Youre welcome mate. All the bookies are confident too; favourites for the drop are Reading, Soton, Wigan and Norwich.

[qpr4life]

Mike Rigg

He really is exciting and professional -

He gives the bigger picture and a real understanding about whats going on and what we can expect.

He also answered several questions about tactics and Adel very well, and gave any doubters and press a real insight into what is going on.

Can I just say, where the hell do some of the callers come from on that show.... Jheez????

Keep the faith

[stainrodisalegend]

Youre welcome mate. All the bookies are confident too; favourites for the drop are Reading, Soton, Wigan and Norwich.

good to know

[80sCasual]

Mike Rigg for manager.

[MYU]

I really like Mike Rigg as well, just goes to show the people we have at the club.

[hal9thou]

Mike Rigg is Joora's man.

Which makes anything he says regarding Hughes suspect: vested interests. Essentially our club has been handed over in practical terms to Team Joora. Had TF and the Mittals had a few more years of EPL business under their belts, I don't think this would have happened. But the attraction was that all practical aspects including transfers could be under one roof. A bit like an F1 team, if you will. And no one can deny that both Joora and Hughes have experience TF & Amit lacked.

The problem of course is that KJ is not in it for QPR. He's in it for the percentages. Add Hughes shortcomings to this and you have a recipe for disaster as far as our club is concerned, because if things don't improve TF will have to take on KJ in order to ditch Hughes. It just makes it that much harder to get rid of him.

[TBLOCKRANGER]

Mike Rigg is Joora's man.

Which makes anything he says regarding Hughes suspect: vested interests. Essentially our club has been handed over in practical terms to Team Joora. Had TF and the Mittals had a few more years of EPL business under their belts, I don't think this would have happened. But the attraction was that all practical aspects including transfers could be under one roof. A bit like an F1 team, if you will. And no one can deny that both Joora and Hughes have experience TF & Amit lacked.

The problem of course is that KJ is not in it for QPR. He's in it for the percentages. Add Hughes shortcomings to this and you have a recipe for disaster as far as our club is concerned, because if things don't improve TF will have to take on KJ in order to ditch Hughes. It just makes it that much harder to get rid of him.

Good points, he was hardly going to be critical of the transfer policy as it would be like Turkeys voting for Christmas. I also agree with you as to important jobs within the club that were previously run by the board or least the board had complete oversight have now been delegated to other people, as you say do these people have the club at their heart, only time will tell. For anyone who works in a place where "contractors" come in to improve matters will know the concerns.

As to the comparison to Man City, the reason they have boosted isn't due to any technical changes but vast sums used to buy the top players in the world and to easily surpass other clubs pay structures. We in the meantime get AJ.

He said the transfer policy was planned well in advance and they had two plans but never elaborated what those plans were. No mention of the bizarre purchase of Green and then Cesar.

A question came in about why we have so many injuries especially hamstring (considering he spent a large amount of time talking about all the backroom work including taking swabs etc), his answer included players coming from different nations


I hope it all works out for us but the concern is we may be being taking for a ride, the man city comparison is not one that gives me any hope, as I said above the Sheikh could and still does pump in vast sums to get what he wants but I don't think we as a club have that luxury to get out of trouble.

[Stanley]

He said the transfer policy was planned well in advance and they had two plans but never elaborated what those plans were. No mention of the bizarre purchase of Green and then Cesar.

Yes, he meant that Plan A was to go for our 1st choice targets, most of which we got, so Plan B wasnt needed. And the Green and Cesar situation has already been well-documented.

A question came in about why we have so many injuries especially hamstring (considering he spent a large amount of time talking about all the backroom work including taking swabs etc), his answer included players coming from different nations

Think you may have misinterpreted that. It was in the context of players having different genetic make-up, some being more predisposed to certain injuries, some at different fitness levels but at no point did he say certain players were more likely to get injured just because they come from other countries. What he did say is that some of the foreign signings need help to adapt because theyre young and its their first time they've lived alone in a foreign city, so they'd need support with that. Yes theyre all highly paid pros but thats not to say they may not need assistance in other areas of their lives.

[TBLOCKRANGER]

Yes, he meant that Plan A was to go for our 1st choice targets, most of which we got, so Plan B wasnt needed. And the Green and Cesar situation has already been well-documented.



Think you may have misinterpreted that. It was in the context of players having different genetic make-up, some being more predisposed to certain injuries, some at different fitness levels but at no point did he say certain players were more likely to get injured just because they come from other countries. What he did say is that some of the foreign signings need help to adapt because theyre young and its their first time they've lived alone in a foreign city, so they'd need support with that. Yes theyre all highly paid pros but thats not to say they may not need assistance in other areas of their lives.

Going for your 1 st choice targets wouldnt to me be described as a plan, what's the alternative plan going for your 5th choice. A plan is going for certain players, maybe young and up and coming or wanted players that play the passing game or wanted more pace, or needed to strengthen the spine of the team. It can safely be surmised from listening to him that we had no plan and purchases were instead done on an ad-hoc basis.
By any stretch of the imagination genetic make up is a weird reason to give, football is global and I haven't heard Arsene saying they haven't won anything for a number of years because of genetic make up leading to more injuries. I haven't ever heard a certain nation hasn't one the world cup because they tend to have more injuries. The club makes great play of all work done behind the scene but a number of new signings don't start for unknown reasons or get injured, I accept you can be unlucky but genetic makeup IMHO is ridiculous. AJ was born in Bedford.

As to keeping the players happy, that is a given isn't it.

Lastly I'm not sure the Green/Cesar has ever been explained by the club, just a tangible example of a poor buy followed by a good buy to resolve the initial error, how many other players purchased where a remedial purchase was required but the club were unable to sought it out in the way they did with Cesar.

[Stanley]

. By any stretch of the imagination genetic make up is a weird reason to give, football is global and I haven't heard Arsene saying they haven't one anything for a number of years because of genetic make up leading to more injuries. I haven't ever heard a certain nation hasn't one the world cup because they tend to have more injuries. The club makes great play of all work done behind the scene but a number of new signings don't start for unknown reasons or get injured, I accept you can be unlucky but genetic makeup IMHO is ridiculous. AJ was born in Bedford.

All he was saying is that certain players can be more pre-disposed to pick up certain types of injury. Genetic make-up can be a factor in this, as can a player's injury history. That's just a 'sport-science' fact.

Lastly I'm not sure the Green/Cesar has ever been explained by the club.

Then you'll need to look again. Yes it has been explained on several occasions within the first few weeks of Cesar's signing.

[TBLOCKRANGER]

All he was saying is that certain players can be more pre-disposed to pick up certain types of injury. Genetic make-up can be a factor in this, as can a player's injury history. That's just a 'sport-science' fact.



Then you'll need to look again. Yes it has been explained on several occasions within the first few weeks of Cesar's signing.

green/Cesar went ass follows:

1. We sign green on 2 year contract on basis that the club said we need one more keeping to stimulate the goalkeeping pool
2. Green plays rubbish
3. The club go in for Cesar on the basis that players of this class don't often become available
4. Cesar becomes first choice. Hughes says he always wanted 2 keepers.
5. Rumours that club say Green can leave

Unless I've missed something, that looks like what happened.

The above is IMHO
1. Not going for your first choice targets nor
2. Is it a plan

[Stanley]

green/Cesar went ass follows:

1. We sign green on 2 year contract on basis that the club said we need one more keeping to stimulate the goalkeeping pool
2. Green plays rubbish
3. The club go in for Cesar on the basis that players of this class don't often become available
4. Cesar becomes first choice. Hughes says he always wanted 2 keepers.
5. Rumours that club say Green can leave

Unless I've missed something, that looks like what happened.

WRT Cesar, youre right the club said that players of that quality dont often become available so they made an approach without expecting to get a positive response. Things then progressed well and they ended up agreeing terms and signing him. Youre also right that Hughes said he always wanted 2 keepers. I agree it doesnt look great from the outside and it does appear harsh on Green, but Hughes has also said that Green does have a future at the club and will get his opportunity as long as he keeps working hard and challenging for the number 1 spot. It does seem incredible that we have two such quality keepers at the club though.

[MYU]

WRT Cesar, youre right the club said that players of that quality dont often become available so they made an approach without expecting to get a positive response. Things then progressed well and they ended up agreeing terms and signing him. Youre also right that Hughes said he always wanted 2 keepers. I agree it doesnt look great from the outside and it does appear harsh on Green, but Hughes has also said that Green does have a future at the club and will get his opportunity as long as he keeps working hard and challenging for the number 1 spot. It does seem incredible that we have two such quality keepers at the club though.

And still at the bottom.

We need to give them time.

[TBLOCKRANGER]

WRT Cesar, youre right the club said that players of that quality dont often become available so they made an approach without expecting to get a positive response. Things then progressed well and they ended up agreeing terms and signing him. Youre also right that Hughes said he always wanted 2 keepers. I agree it doesnt look great from the outside and it does appear harsh on Green, but Hughes has also said that Green does have a future at the club and will get his opportunity as long as he keeps working hard and challenging for the number 1 spot. It does seem incredible that we have two such quality keepers at the club though.

[TBLOCKRANGER]

I know I bang on about it but I do believe that much of the blame is on our transfer policy. MH isn't a poor manager as he did well at all the clubs he's been at. Plus they were all premiership clubs.
What he has messed up is the transfers IMHO. This wasn't a manager who can blame lack of board support or inheriting a poor team, he's had a year and two transfer windows. He came in with a support team that was suppose have the know how and insight to get quality players, talk was his agent was calling Tony in NWs final days touting MH.
Rigg going on about targeting first choice players just adds to the shambles, its not about targetting players but positions. Weak positions within the team should have been targetted really as soon as MHs joined. Defence and a holding midfield player plus a top end out and out striker should have been the priority. No point targeting players as they might not turn up eg. Dawson and then you are left with the same old mess. Sorting out the defence became an afterthought.
As a manager I don't think he has the players to turn it round, unfortunately as he had sold himself as the man to bring in quality players, he is responsible.
As to players like Park and JH they are quality players but they weren't the players we necessary needed to build the foundations. I have sympathy for these players as Park is simply surrounded by some players tht are s**te and JH doesn't play. It's a mess and sacking MH will simply get him off the hook, I never wanted him but he and his team needed to be brought to book including Rigg, no more believing there hype and somehow they know what they are doing and be dazzled by the fact they use swabs ffs, need some harsh words and the need to be told in no uncertain terms to f***** sought it out. I really wish managers and support teams had penalty clauses in their contracts.