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[rickyranger]

I am not a Taarabt worshipper, and I myself criticise him when needed (like some of the awful corners he had been taking of late that wouldn't even clear the first defender), but that said, he is still the best player we have. I would rather have someone who gives the ball away for every two quality, searching passes he makes than someone who always makes the passes but always chooses the simple ones. Yes, sometimes he slows the play down, big deal, a lot of quality players slow the game down. I don't care if he doesn't track back, how often would you see Matt Le Tissier tracking back? Player like Tarbs needs to be given the freedom of the park, do what he likes and where he likes, his form was poor last season because he was not mentally fit, we need a manager to sort his head out and give him a constant run in the team and then see him firing on all cylinders.

If he played two quality passes for every time he gave it away but he simply doesn't, if I missed some please remind me but on your stats he would a world beater and the likes of Barcelona, Real Madrid and Man U would be after him. Oh hang on he thinks they are !!!

Which quality players slow the play down, Messi, Ronaldo, Silva no I don't think so. Your example of Mathew Le Tisser remind me again who he played for and what he won in his world rated career.

Sorry to be critical but Tarrabt is no different from many other very talented players with poor attitudes that will never reach their full potential. I would suggest you check out Lee Trundle on YouTube, hugely talented and can look world class but look who he plays for now and his career history.

Nothing would please me more to Tarrabt turn it on week after week but it will need a real change in attitude if it is to happen.

[rickyranger]

Ricky. I've been Rs since 64, I was eight years old when I realised I had this blue and white hooped albatross around my neck ;)

I remember the bad times. (I also remember better ones. We played football once upon a time, and it took us pretty much to the top.) But just because we've seen worse is no reason not to voice concerns now. I disagree with you about Mark Hughes, but I don't think Harry (who we both remember as a young player) is necessarily the solution. However, there are other alternatives to Harry including at least one previous managers who served this club well and has more tactical suss.

It's all about opinions and as they say everyone is entitled to one but we would be absolutely crazy to sack Hughes. He has only ever improved teams he has managed and he will do the same for us. Yes he may not play football like Barcelona but neither is he Alladyce. Can only think you are referring to Holloway as the previous manager, again all about opinions but I remember a game at Peterborough when they were reduced to 10 men early doors and he had absolutely no clue how to change it and we ended up 0-0. No doubt he as improved tactically since then and to some extent changed his footballing style but not sure he is as tactically aware as you believe.

[72bus]

This calling for Hughes head is crazy. we have a wide range of good quality players and its just a case of finding the right combinations and tactics to get the best out of them as a group, we are severely hindered by numerous injuries especially in defence but Hughes and the team have to be given the chance to get it right, we have had 3 reasonably decent performances against teams that will finish in the top 6 and a loss in the cup to a premiership team and people want Hughes sacked. plain crazy

some good points , i dont think sparky knows his best 11, yes he has had injuries and there has been some bad mistakes that have meant we have lost by the odd goal, but surely he must have drummed into his defenders how to defend ... why was pog unmarked to score the winner in the week , why as a class CF himself has he not taught cisse to stay onside

[Jimmy Floyd Rabbit]

Great post OP.

Unfortunately we've always had a lot of #### hole fans more so the last 5-6 years. Spoilt might be the word I'm looking for.

[Geng]

Yes, great OP.

Wrong on Taarabt though. People forget how good he looked towards the end of last season playing left wing and tracking back. In the Spurs game at LR he covered Walker so thoroughly he'd often end up as one of our deepest players. I was very, very impressed with his discipline. Shame he's not had enough chance to show it this season...

[Jimmy Floyd Rabbit]

Agree with that geng. Still our most creative player.

[Busheyboy]

some good posts here. Tarbs is the most naturally talent player we have and probably has more skill than most players n the league. However, that needs to be combined with effort and commitment to the cause. Even his biggest fans, have to questions some of his antics. They can't be brushed under the carpet "coz he's our most creative player"
We can't have players getting on buses at half time because we're losing and they've been taken off. Throwing a wobbly when subbed in other games. Very childish and immature. I grew up on Marsh, Bowles and Currie, so I know about flair and skill. It's a team game and Tarbs doesn't always appear to respect that. Also, his perfomances in the PL have not been consistent and we need consistency in all aspects of the club to go forwards. A few decent games at the end of the season are not enough at this level. Sure they helped us stay up but some shockers earlier in the season contributed to us being in a mess in the first place. Not blaming him alone for that.
I also think the MH is not sure of his best 11 and the injuries are making it harder for him to find it.
Whilst we've been unlucky to pick up several injuries at the back, I'm not convinced the quality of our defenders is good enough, overall.
My one real criticism of MH and his team that we haven't gone out and bought some real quality at the back. If you don't concede goals, you won't lose matches.
Not complcated really, is it?

[silvercue]

Yes, good Post. I also lean towards supporting tarbs though...he needs to be managed right though.

I don't agree that we should play 11 grafters ahead of talent. SWP is awful...but runs back??? Who cares???

Berbatov never tracked back fur UTD and won the golden boot and the title.

Talk of new manager is just daft though.

[RussRanger]

Are some arguing that Hughes is a bad manager because he doesn't pick Taraabt? I'm getting confused by this thread. Seems to be two separate arguments going on.

[Busheyboy]

Managers choice to pick who he wants, some will always disagree whoever he picks. We pay our money and are entktle to our opinion. We also don't see what goes on in training and behnd closed doors. I trust a man who has played for Man U very successfully and hiis managerial record overall is pretty good.

I do think 5 league games in, people are jumping out the pram a bit too quickly. Had we played the worst 5 teams in the league, platyed badly and got 0 points, I'd be a bit more worried. THAT'S NOT THE CASE
Obviously, I haven't taken into account all us Rangers fans are obvously better players and managers than he was or will ever be.

[silvercue]

Are some arguing that Hughes is a bad manager because he doesn't pick Taraabt? I'm getting confused by this thread. Seems to be two separate arguments going on.

you can never have too many arguments in one thread!

[DeepcutHoop]

Are some arguing that Hughes is a bad manager because he doesn't pick Taraabt? I'm getting confused by this thread. Seems to be two separate arguments going on.

2nd law of WeAreTheRangersBoys.

All WATRB threads tend towards a row about Adel.

[Yousef]

Well said Ricky

[MattyRangers]

I usually have a look on here most days and post now and again but recently the amount of garbage posted on here has reached a new height.

Yep.

[Yousef]

I am assuming you're talking about Park here.

Just because he has played for Man Utd and won trophies for them does not mean he is the best choice and should start every game. Taraabt is a better player than Park, so is Hoilett. I think Diakite, Granero and Faurlin are better suited at playing Central Midfield than Park. So I think Park should not be starting. I don't care how many trophies he has won and with who - the best players should start, and Park has better players ahead of him.

Are you really watching the games? Park has been the best player so far. He almost wins every tackle. Yes agree Taarabt is better in terms of skills, but what matters in the end if who every players better for the team. Taarabt gave away many balls easily last season. He needs to learn quickly while Park has already learnt that during his days with Man Utd.