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  • I have reservations about the new QPR. Anyone else?

    I've spent more than 10 years arguing that the sudden cash injection into Chelsea, Man City and (less spectacularly), many other clubs, has had a negative effect on football. I think this position is almost unchallengeable if you care about the health of the sport in this country.

    Now something similar has happened at Rangers, and I can't change my view. To do so would be massive hypocrisy.

    I have always hated the argument from Chelsea and City fans that "If it happened at your club, you'd be happy. It's just jealousy." I always replied that it wasn't a matter of self interest, and I wouldn't change my view. I'm pleased that I haven't.

    Don't misunderstand me. I am very glad indeed that we had the original investment in QPR to stabilise a club that was on the brink. I was, and remain, hugely grateful to to Tony Fernandes for showing faith in QPR, and for helping to replace the negative Briatore.

    But some of the decisions have been lamentable, and reflect badly on QPR. I can't stand the policy of acquiring aging marquee signings, and even most of the younger guys arriving full of promise have been disappointing. I am of course, still extremely hopeful that these will come good.

    So it's not investment itself that I'm against. But talking to football fans over many years (I've been watching QPR since the 60s) the one thing that most of us agree on is what we really want to see is a solid youth development policy. We all love to see young English players come through the ranks. I realise that this takes time, and we need to keep the club in the Premier League, so a short term spending policy is needed. But it all looks a bit like a watered down version of the early versions of Chelsea and Man City. Buy a load of names on high salaries and then find that these gifted individuals seem unable to play with the other fading celebs. Worse, they don't seem to care that much about QPR.

    I desperately hope that we can keep the ship afloat, but i would like to hear more about the future, and about the vision for the club. I know we are improving the training facilities and are looking at a new stadium. Great. But I would like to see a bit more caution in our current buying policy, and look for dependability, consistency, loyalty and a team mentality, rather than the sort of guys who've been flooding in over the past 12 months. I'd love to see more Faurlin-type buys, and I really rate Hoilett.

    But even with Amit B on board and his wealthy father in law, I fear that we are more of a Portsmouth or a Middlesboro than a Manchester City or Chelsea. If the current policy does not succeed, I fear for the likelihood of Mittal stying on board, and even Tony Fernandes is far too astute a businessman to carry on throwing good money after bad.

    In the meantime, whatever happens, our good reputation is trashed and we become widely despised and ridiculed.

    I don't like it. I don't like the risks attached to trying to buy success in the short term. Would much prefer a slow, incremental evolution.

    Comments?

  • #2
    Yep, buy buy buy instead of prudence with slow and steady progress.
    Banning people is no longer my hobby,
    but take a look at my photo blog:

    http://kirillqpr.blogspot.com/

    How and why did I start supporting QPR in Estonia:
    http://www.wearetherangersboys.com/forum/blog.php?b=852

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    • #3
      I understand your concerns. However some clubs have paid the amount for one player that we have paid for several. In the modern age, none of the players were "expensive", many were free. Their wages have to be paid, but a lot of them are on short-term contracts (a fact which many are unhappy about), so it they don't work out they just move on and if they do work out they will be worth more and if they decide to leave we should get a good transfer amount.

      Unfortunately what you talk about is modern football and cannot be avoided.

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      • #4
        We still suffer from the Bernie and Favio period, I think. Hence, I´m not too sure many young and upcoming players and agents even did consider us seriously due to the aforementioned reason. IMO, From now on it´s paramount that we steady the ship, from transferwindow to transferwindow.

        PS. I do also think Barton´s presence at the club scared a quite few young players from signing. Or even consider it.
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        • #5
          Don't watch us then

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          • #6
            One day we will all die. But we choose to enjoy the present, because we can't change that outcome.

            Much like we can't change how the club is choosing to operate, so may as well enjoy the good times while we can. And hope that they last.

            Many have voiced their concerns on this topic, if it all goes wrong you won't even be heard in the chorus of I told you so's.

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            • #7
              You know the old saying
              If you can't beat em

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Kirill View Post
                Yep, buy buy buy instead of prudence with slow and steady progress.

                Just a question. Do you think we have bought too many players in this window?
                Last edited by Shania; 01-09-2012, 04:32 PM.
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                • #9
                  TF has repeatedly said there is a solid plan in place. The training ground and new stadium seem to back this up.

                  Buy now to secure our immediate future and prepare in the background for long term stability. Sounds like a good plan to me, especially if TF believes the current rate of spend is manageable.

                  I think people would be questioning our long term ambitions even further, if we were to concentrate on youth now yet continue to plan for new stadiums etc.

                  The detractors would then question why we would even bother with a new stadium if our current team had a spine of Kenny, Hill, Derry and Mackie.

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                  • #10
                    So far we've spent a fraction of what Sunderland, Stoke, Fulham and Newcastle did in their first two years back in the prem to re-establish themselves as PL clubs. A lot of our signings have been frees and loans too, then there's the large amount of players that have now left and are off the payroll. Even this last window our overall spend has been far less than many other clubs even though we've brought in the most amount of players.

                    Furthermore Fernandes, Bhatia and Beard have spoke many times at great length about their vision and long-terms goals for the club, developing youth academy, new training ground, stadium, scouting etc. We've already brought 4 players through from the youth system this season + the new youngster from Portsmouth. What we're doing is nowhere near on the scale of Chelsea and Man City.
                    Last edited by Stanley; 01-09-2012, 03:46 PM.

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                    • #11
                      It is negative on football but hey this is what football has become.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Stanley76 View Post
                        So far we've spent a fraction of what Sunderland, Stoke, Fulham and Newcastle did in their first two years back in the prem to re-establish themselves as PL clubs. A lot of our signings have been frees and loans too, then there's the large amount of players that have now left and are off the payroll. Even this last window our overall spend has been far less than many other clubs even though we've brought in the most amount of players.

                        Furthermore Fernandes, Bhatia and Beard have spoke many times at great length about their vision and long-terms goals for the club, developing youth academy, new training ground, stadium, scouting etc. We've already brought 4 players through from the youth system this season + the new youngster from Portsmouth. What we're doing is nowhere near on the scale of Chelsea and Man City.
                        Can you post this on all the other prem teams boards Stanley?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by QPRDave View Post
                          Can you post this on all the other prem teams boards Stanley?
                          To be honest Dave I dont have much interest in what rival fans think about us, but feel free to quote my post there if you like

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Stanley76 View Post
                            To be honest Dave I dont have much interest in what rival fans think about us, but feel free to quote my post there if you like
                            Yeah fair enough mate......I need to adopt your attitude.......I get right wound up when people #### us off

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by QPRDave View Post
                              Yeah fair enough mate......I need to adopt your attitude.......I get right wound up when people #### us off
                              Fear and ignorance, thats all it is mate, I take no notice

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