Taraabt Sceptics !!

[QprSinceBirth]

Could it be taraabt getting grief as he had Most of the ball?

http://www.eplindex.com/17885/premier-league-12-13-opta-stats-best-players-fixture-1.html?

These stats here show him and park actually did well. Amongst the best this weekend.

[Ginger Ninja]

Parks work rate is phenomenal. Thought he was our best player by some distance.

[MattyRangers]

First things first, Im not saying Adel has been amazing for us in the PL, I know fullwell he hasnt, but I do feel with him, we have so much expectation on him that, unless he has a worldy and pulls off some sublime skills and takes the game by storm, it seems some will brand it a "poor performance". The stats from Saturday clearly show he wasnt that bad at all, but some are saying how poorly he played.

Agree with Ginger regards park, looked top drawer in a very shoddy QPR performance, work harder than anybody and his touch and pass was class, can tell how he has made a career at utd. Just imagine how well he would play with the others around him being on song as well.

[The Leveller]

Rather meaningless unless you understand how they are complied. If chance created was a corner that did not beat the first defender, a shot at goal when he had run into a closed down position or a final third pass when he himself was closed down and could not get a shot off, then rather useless. Park's I could understand given he was playing deeper. Mark Hughes must see something at the training sessions on corners that makes him the best, if so the rest are very poor but the first point of a corner is getting the bloody ball over the first defender and I would love to see the stats on that. I would rather see his stats go down in one area and his assists go up but that comes from using the ball early. He is the Jamie Mackie of the middle running into closed down positions. No doubt about his skills on the ball but rather wasted if not applied for the benefit of the team

[Bluehoop]

The stats don't tell the true story of his performance. As I say to the chicks that laugh at my modest 8 inches, it's not what you've got but how you use it that matters

[silvercue]

He is a good player and we need him. I can't see it any other way. At QPR grafters get love, even if they are average or worse. Flair players gets slated unless they play like Messi every game.

[QprSinceBirth]

He is a good player and we need him. I can't see it any other way. At QPR grafters get love, even if they are average or worse. Flair players gets slated unless they play like Messi every game.

Spot on cue.

[paulmason]

Could it be taraabt getting grief as he had Most of the ball?

http://www.eplindex.com/17885/premier-league-12-13-opta-stats-best-players-fixture-1.html?

These stats here show him and park actually did well. Amongst the best this weekend.

The only stats that matter are goals and assists.

I remember last season when we played Swansea at home, the fans were singing "its like watching paint dry" when they were doing all that tippy tappy nonsense with no end product, i bet they had goods stats after that game, although they lost 3-0.

[silvercue]

That is valid, but you can get something from stats, you just need to understand their context. Otherwise clubs wouldn't use them themselves.

Also, if you see a player has a pass completion of 10% - it does not matter whether he was trying to thread through the eye of a needle or a simple pass - it is still bad to concede that much possession.

[The Moroccan]

Adel needs a good striker in front of him who could read his passes very well .. Cisse was poor in last game ..in fact he never convinced me, feel sorry we have signed few lads but not a striker.

[MattyRangers]

Adel needs a good striker in front of him who could read his passes very well .. Cisse was poor in last game ..in fact he never convinced me, feel sorry we have signed few lads but not a striker.

Woahhhhh, hang on a second, please can you just confirm you said Cisse has never convinced you?

[Bluehoop]

Adel needs a good striker in front of him who could read his passes very well .. Cisse was poor in last game ..in fact he never convinced me, feel sorry we have signed few lads but not a striker.

Cisse didn't read his passes very well? That's not really a surprise seeing as how not a single one of them went in the general direction it was supposed to. Seriously, people just need to accept that he had a poor game, just like almost everyone else.

[paulmason]

Cisse didn't read his passes very well? That's not really a surprise seeing as how not a single one of them went in the general direction it was supposed to. Seriously, people just need to accept that he had a poor game, just like almost everyone else.

That's the funny thing with quite a people few on here. If Macki and Onahura or a another has a poor game, they need to be dropped but if Adel has a bad game, its not his fault but because of others and someone else has to be dropped or moved so Adel can play on the left, in the middle, on the right, in goal etc, so he plays.

[MattyRangers]

Cisse was totally ineffective on Saturday, yes, and IMHO that was solely (or at leats majorly) down to Hughes tactics. Playing him as a lone striker and forcing him to come deep to pick up the ball with his back to the goal is totally neutralising his main weapon: playing off the last man and using his pace to get in behind their defence. He needs to play up top with Zamora IMO.

[Will M]

Tarbs was in my dream team, and scored very well for me based on his dribbles and shots at goal.

But losing the ball cheaply when the team is pushing up is dangerous, which is one of the reasons that led to us being thrashed. Not just down to Tarbs, but he's very much as culpable as the defence and Green imho.