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  • #46
    Cisse didnīt even try. Just strolled about on the pitch. Mackie did at least put some efforts in it.
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    • #47
      Originally posted by The Godfather View Post
      Sorry, didn't think Mackie was as bad as some of the others. Thought he caused them a few problems, particularly in the first half. At least he showed a bit of effort.
      Mate he was nowhere near the worst player on the pitch for us today. At least 4 or 5 worse than him today, not sure why people feel the need to dig him out whenever we lose. He done quite well tbh, SWP was dog $hit as usual when he came on. Mackie over him all day for me.
      You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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      • #48
        Originally posted by Shania View Post
        Cisse didnīt even try. Just strolled about on the pitch. Mackie did at least put some efforts in it.
        The thing with Cisse yesterday was, IMO, Hughes getting the tactics all wrong. Cisse is not a lone striker that comes deep to pick the ball up, he was so ineffective yesterday as this is what he was forced to do - he needs a big man, ie Zamora, alongside him.
        You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by MattyRangers View Post
          Mate he was nowhere near the worst player on the pitch for us today. At least 4 or 5 worse than him today, not sure why people feel the need to dig him out whenever we lose. He done quite well tbh, SWP was dog $hit as usual when he came on. Mackie over him all day for me.

          I don't disagree that 4 or 5 were worse than him. The 4 or 5 that were worse was a surprise as they had shockers. But they dont play like that every week. As Hammersmith says this was Mackie and his usual self. It was a fairly standard performance from him and he was very poor. Just think he has so much to offer when he comes on in games. He can finish and his efforts get him plenty of chances against tired legs. Just not good enough to start.

          Harsh on SWP. He came on at right back in a defence that had shipped 4 or 5. He is not a right back. He did nothing granted but what could he do?

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          • #50
            Originally posted by MattyRangers View Post
            The thing with Cisse yesterday was, IMO, Hughes getting the tactics all wrong. Cisse is not a lone striker that comes deep to pick the ball up, he was so ineffective yesterday as this is what he was forced to do - he needs a big man, ie Zamora, alongside him.
            Totally agree with this. People are being harsh on Cisee. He was playing a Zamora role with balls played into him with his back to goal. He needs Zamora alongside him to create chances for him to run onto.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by SammyKojoe View Post
              I don't disagree that 4 or 5 were worse than him. The 4 or 5 that were worse was a surprise as they had shockers. But they dont play like that every week. As Hammersmith says this was Mackie and his usual self. It was a fairly standard performance from him and he was very poor. Just think he has so much to offer when he comes on in games. He can finish and his efforts get him plenty of chances against tired legs. Just not good enough to start.

              Harsh on SWP. He came on at right back in a defence that had shipped 4 or 5. He is not a right back. He did nothing granted but what could he do?
              Even going forward he was pony. He doesnt run at players like he should IMO and his shooting is woeful. I am being harsh on him tbf, but at the end that perfect ball Park dinked over to him he wacked into the crowd. I know Mackies no world bester but Id sooner have him than SWP starting. Personally, wouldnt have either though. Id have Park RM, Hoilet LM & Diakite & Adel CM as the squad currently is.
              You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by MattyRangers View Post
                Mate he was nowhere near the worst player on the pitch for us today. At least 4 or 5 worse than him today, not sure why people feel the need to dig him out whenever we lose. He done quite well tbh, SWP was dog $hit as usual when he came on. Mackie over him all day for me.
                SWP was inexplicably bought on at right back at 3-0 down so but harsh on him to have a go.

                Mackies positional play is strange at best. I accept it might not be his natural position but he has been playing there long enough. Several times yesterday the whole of the upper loft screamed at him to get wide when onouha had the ball, but instead mackie went in to the centre. At other times when hoilett had the ball on the left, and mackie should have been tucking in, he was stood out wide on the touch line.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by MattyRangers View Post
                  Even going forward he was pony. He doesnt run at players like he should IMO and his shooting is woeful. I am being harsh on him tbf, but at the end that perfect ball Park dinked over to him he wacked into the crowd. I know Mackies no world bester but Id sooner have him than SWP starting. Personally, wouldnt have either though. Id have Park RM, Hoilet LM & Diakite & Adel CM as the squad currently is.
                  I missed that SWP chance as i had left! I could take no more. Agree with that midfield though. That is the 4 i would start with given what we have available.

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by MattyRangers View Post
                    The thing with Cisse yesterday was, IMO, Hughes getting the tactics all wrong. Cisse is not a lone striker that comes deep to pick the ball up, he was so ineffective yesterday as this is what he was forced to do - he needs a big man, ie Zamora, alongside him.
                    Correct ,now maybe the Zamora knockers will see that his game isn't just about scoring goals Hughs could have taken Cisse off at half time and put Zamora on to give the likes of Mackie and Hoilet someone to try to pick out to hold the ball up for other players Cisse was 2 seconds behind play all afternoon giving the swansea defenders a very easey afternoon

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