Sack Hughes?

[NYHoop]

Sparky

"its only been 6 games"

9 months

2 transfer windows

14 new players

a keeper getting paid 50k per week sitting on the bench

im afraid if we dont win in our next 3 matches (which include Everton who are on top form, and the gunners) he HAS to go...

[Marshy]

i think it might all be over if we lose to WBA. Even if we get a point against Everton, with our defence, we will lose to the Gunners. That will be 3 points from 9 games. The ONLY thing that might go in his favour is that Norwich and Southampton seem really poor, so they'll have very few points too, and so we won't be rooted miles off at the bottom.

[Cookie Monster]

It's football management, not brain surgery.

You underestimate the complexity of modern management me thinks.

To be a serious club. We need serious infastructure. To have serious infastructure we need to have some serious stability.

Without infastructure we will never be a premier league club. Whoever our manger is.

Instead we will spend money. Get a bonkers manager. He'll fail. We'll sack him. Get someone else in spend lots of money and He'll fail. And then we'll be new portsmouth and the buckets will be back out outside loftus road.

And by god. it might just be the fans who are to blame.

[D3nisBail3ySliP]

3 matches? bullsh*t. We've gotta stick with hughesy whatever happens. JAN transfer window will see the remaining positions covered but need to get through this patch without a 1st choice stable back 4 along with m'bia needing time to settle which with our obvious weakness at the back at the moment already must be hard! feel sorry for sparky actually, he inherited a woeful squad but kept us up and has had to build a whole new squad which still isnt enough now due to how poor the setup has been for years! it too was obvious that he struggled to sign alot of the players he wanted due to us bein crappy old QPR who? leaving us still with senior players past it or no way good enough. long live sparky! best thing QPR have done for years gettin MH on board imo & it's gettin there. The road is a long one with 32 games to go. faith!

[stainrodisalegend]

You underestimate the complexity of modern management me thinks.

To be a serious club. We need serious infastructure. To have serious infastructure we need to have some serious stability.

Without infastructure we will never be a premier league club. Whoever our manger is.

Instead we will spend money. Get a bonkers manager. He'll fail. We'll sack him. Get someone else in spend lots of money and He'll fail. And then we'll be new portsmouth and the buckets will be back out outside loftus road.

And by god. it might just be the fans who are to blame.

Good post. As for the other poster who says hughes must win his next three matches to survive, get real. I'd be delighted with winning one of them. Wd settle for a couple of draws. Just need to stop the rot.

[Naarven Mankey]

3 matches? bullsh*t. We've gotta stick with hughesy whatever happens. JAN transfer window will see the remaining positions covered but need to get through this patch without a 1st choice stable back 4 along with m'bia needing time to settle which with our obvious weakness at the back at the moment already must be hard! feel sorry for sparky actually, he inherited a woeful squad but kept us up and has had to build a whole new squad which still isnt enough now due to how poor the setup has been for years! it too was obvious that he struggled to sign alot of the players he wanted due to us bein crappy old QPR who? leaving us still with senior players past it or no way good enough. long live sparky! best thing QPR have done for years gettin MH on board imo & it's gettin there. The road is a long one with 32 games to go. faith!

Well said!

[Rangers_Boy83]

3 matches? bullsh*t. We've gotta stick with hughesy whatever happens. JAN transfer window will see the remaining positions covered but need to get through this patch without a 1st choice stable back 4 along with m'bia needing time to settle which with our obvious weakness at the back at the moment already must be hard! feel sorry for sparky actually, he inherited a woeful squad but kept us up and has had to build a whole new squad which still isnt enough now due to how poor the setup has been for years! it too was obvious that he struggled to sign alot of the players he wanted due to us bein crappy old QPR who? leaving us still with senior players past it or no way good enough. long live sparky! best thing QPR have done for years gettin MH on board imo & it's gettin there. The road is a long one with 32 games to go. faith!

Spot on, great post and many on here need to understand that

[MYU]

It has to be nothing but 3 points on Saturday, we were doing much better last year and we a stronger squad now.

[silvercue]

Not many managers get 2 transfer windows to go out and get as many players as he has and take us to the bottom.....and now he needs ANOTHER transfer window??

He has got some good players, but some mistakes too and failed to address key areas.

I think we have to keep him, becuase we have given him all these players......I think he is doing a pretty bad job right now though.

[Busheyboy]

we can't defend, doesn't matter how many chances we create with useless idiots at the back
don't blame MH for the injuries but his tactics are helping TBF

It's all to do with creating chances, that is what we need to work on.

[QPRJACK123]

At the end of last season, we were playing well with Zamora up top by himself, with Tarbs and Mackie playing either side, so just switch that with Hoilett instead of Mackie, we were much more of a unit, then with a 3 man midfield

[silvercue]

IIRC when MH took over we were 4th from bottom. He has never taken us higher than that as far as I can remember and now we are bottom after 2 transfer windows where he has had incredible support. Remember than many of those under performers are his signings.

Yes we have injuries at the back, but it's hardly like we are waiting for the world's best defenders to get back. We lost the game in midfield and tactically - added to ineffective wide players (when we had better options on the bench) and some players, like Cisse looking lazy or tired.

So, I am sure people may have a point when they say that NW needed to go - but MH has done no better than he was doing.

[qprdad]

3 matches? bullsh*t. We've gotta stick with hughesy whatever happens. JAN transfer window will see the remaining positions covered but need to get through this patch without a 1st choice stable back 4 along with m'bia needing time to settle which with our obvious weakness at the back at the moment already must be hard! feel sorry for sparky actually, he inherited a woeful squad but kept us up and has had to build a whole new squad which still isnt enough now due to how poor the setup has been for years! it too was obvious that he struggled to sign alot of the players he wanted due to us bein crappy old QPR who? leaving us still with senior players past it or no way good enough. long live sparky! best thing QPR have done for years gettin MH on board imo & it's gettin there. The road is a long one with 32 games to go. faith!

Ahh!.... the voice of reason, well said

[pblock]

3 matches? bullsh*t. We've gotta stick with hughesy whatever happens. JAN transfer window will see the remaining positions covered but need to get through this patch without a 1st choice stable back 4 along with m'bia needing time to settle which with our obvious weakness at the back at the moment already must be hard! feel sorry for sparky actually, he inherited a woeful squad but kept us up and has had to build a whole new squad which still isnt enough now due to how poor the setup has been for years! it too was obvious that he struggled to sign alot of the players he wanted due to us bein crappy old QPR who? leaving us still with senior players past it or no way good enough. long live sparky! best thing QPR have done for years gettin MH on board imo & it's gettin there. The road is a long one with 32 games to go. faith!

I’m certainly not someone who yells for the manager to be sacked because of one or two poor performances, but Hughes is certainly sailing close to the wind. I agree with you to a certain extent about Hughes putting in an infrastructure that has been sorely lacking for a long time and for that he has to be applauded however this will take, time this season more than many others with the inflated TV rights coming into effect next year it is imperative to stay up. The off the field work may be impressive but on the field it is a slightly different story.
MH has been at the club now for 10 months or so and on paper the squad has improved but he has been given a fair amount of funds to do that but it is the performances on the pitch that have been worrying. For every decent performance (Chelsea & Spurs) there are two abject ones (Swansea, West Ham, Reading etc). In his tenure we have never been above 4th bottom as far as I can recall (maybe i’m wrong).

We do have injuries at the back there are no two ways about it and you rightly say that Mbia needs time to settle but why wasn’t the centre back issue sorted out earlier in the summer. Bar Nelsen who is a stop gap signing we weren’t linked extensively to any centre halfs for a long period we then got in Mbia and made an attempt for Dawson but up until that not much appeared to have been done. It was clear last season we needed at least two new centre halfs and in all honesty they were the priority.

Hughes has had to give the squad a makeover but if you look at the squad it is lopsided. We have a number of midfielders in the 25 but are much lighter at the back and going forward. Yes Johnson’s injury was unfortunate but picking 3 out and out strikers in a squad of 25 is always going to be a risk. Why was Hogan given a squad place, when he realistically is going to get nowhere near the team barring mass injuries / illness. Surely it would have made more sense to give Campbell a go, I’m not proclaiming DJ to be some sort of Messi / Van Persie calibre player but I would have more hope if we were chasing a game with him coming on as opposed to Hogan. An Injury to Zamora and a suspension for Cisse and you are scratching for a forward line.

If you pinned Hughes down and asked him what his best team is I’m not sure he could give you an answer. The injuries at the back are not helping this, but his messing about of the midfield is not great either. Last night was a prime example. Injuries have forced him to play 2 centre backs at full back. Neither Hill or Ned O are shall we say buccaneering full backs who will go down the flank and provide added width. So he starts SWP and Park ahead of them, that’s just bonkers. SWP has been a big disappointment since he arrived and Hughes’s insistence on sticking with him is quite frankly baffling. Park offered nothing in terms of getting at the full back and as soon as you saw the set up you knew we were going to struggle, an impotent eunuch would offer more penetration than that set up. If you are playing with two full backs who aren’t going to go forward you have to play to wide players who will. Demel the West Ham right back is a lump and as soon as you get at him he struggles. 1st half he could have gone and had a kip it was that bad. The fact we had no out ball to someone who would run at West Ham’s wide men meant that Granero and Faurlin kept getting crowded out as they had limited options

The substitutions made I thought were the correct one’s but why wait until 10 minutes into the 2nd half and Hoilett should have been on 10-15 minutes earlier at least.

Hughes has to take a long look at himself as the guys out there are his players, he has had two transfer windows and a pre season and our league form shows that we haven’t managed to find a system to get the best out of the players he has brought in.

If he goes the question would be who comes in?

I think you have to give him the next 4 games at least. WBA away will be tough they are in good form and our away record under MH is nothing short of shocking. Everton at home will be very tough as will Arsenal away. Then it’s Reading at home and judging by our league cup performance and our two home performances against sides we would fancy taking points off (Swansea and West Ham) I wouldn’t bank on much more than 4 points against those sides. That may be enough to get a stay of execution but if we were to get say a point in those 4 games then we would be over a quarter of the way through the season with less than 5 points.

I hope MH can turn it round as I agree stability is important but we need to start getting some points on the board otherwise I fear the board will have to show their hand

[brightonr]

I think we need to trust Tony's judgement and keep the faith with Hughes, until December at least, despite his appalling performance so far. Then, if we are still in trouble, nobody could blame him for taking action.

But we all need to acknowledge the fact that when Warnock was sacked we were 17th and we finished the season in 17th, courtesy of Stoke and the referee. No progress there in half a season. We are now bottom, so hardly any since. He has been backed with the players he wanted through two transfer windows. More than any other manager I can think of. The majority of the squad are HIS players, the ones that HE brought in. He has had ample time to stop highly paid professional footballers defending like schoolboys. He has had ample time to realise that SWP was never the answer. We could have all told him that the second he arrived. If he thinks Onuoha is of sufficient quality for one of HIS teams, then it is most definitely HIM, that is the one lacking ambition.

He needs to stop being stubborn right now and immediately start playing our best players in their most favoured positions, rather than persist with the ridiculous team selections and tactics that are solely responsible for us being where we are. We have played Swansea, Norwich and West Ham and have managed a point. Totally unacceptable. And the very last thing that should happen is that he is given another penny until he has proved himself capable of knowing what to do with it, which does not include a £50k pw keeper on the bench. Disgraceful waste of money when one looks at our defence.

Hopefully, he can start to show why he has a reputation for being a good manager, because as yet he has not improved us one iota. The table doesn't lie.