THE GB vs South Korea

[silvercue]

If Britain wins gold at football it would strengthen the case for merging the four home nations FAs.

Utter rubbish.

[QPRDave]

But to them it's not rubbing countries out. The argument is that Britain is a unified state so why is it sending four teams to competitions? If it can compete as a GB team, like in the Olympics, then it can compete at UEFA and FIFA competitions. Why do you think the Scottish and Welsh FAs were so opposed to it?

But these countries are trying to get independence so and do have their own own leagues and fa's so surely they don't have the power to just disband that? and the Olympic football doesn't fall under FIFA's umbrella anyway does it?

[silvercue]

The Olympics is FIFA sanctioned, but so is Women's football - doesn't mean we will have to let women play with men - it's just rificulous scare mongering.

[QPR Richard]

Utter rubbish.

You obviously know it all don't you pal? Didn't you know that the supporters clubs of all four home nations objected to the Team GB football team because of the possible risks? Didn't you know that in 2008 the president of FIFA and the Chief Executive of UEFA said there was a possible risks? Didn't you know that three of the four home nations understood the risks and didn't want to participate in Team GB?

Read this:

Due to the success of the London 2012 Olympic bid, the United Kingdom gained the right to enter a team in the football tournament as host nation.[5][31] The British Olympic Association (BOA) stated it would enter a football team,[5] but the Scottish Football Association (SFA) refused even to attend meetings at which the Home Nations were to discuss the possibility[32] and the Football Association of Wales (FAW) withdrew from the negotiations.[33] The Irish Football Association (representing Northern Ireland) stated in October 2007 that they would not take part in a unified team, leaving the English Football Association as the only association willing to take part. The SFA's opposition to the plans were rooted primarily in the fear that the Home Nations would be forced to field a combined team in all competitions.[32] This would mean the loss of the special status of the Home Nations, established under FIFA's constitution.[34]

The FA released a supporters' shirt for fans of Team GB Various fans, politicians and sports-people all gave their opinions with regards to the creation of a team. A 2005 opinion poll published by the BOA claimed that a majority of Scots supported the creation of a British team for the 2012 Olympics.[35] A joint statement issued by the official fan clubs of all four Home Nations voiced their opposition to the plan.[36] Various prominent politicians also offered their opinion as to whether there should be a British team in the 2012 Olympics. Prime Minister Gordon Brown stated during the 2008 Olympics that he wanted a British team and would work towards that happening, although he acknowledged that it could affect the autonomy of the Home Nations.[37] First Minister of Scotland Alex Salmond then stated his opposition to a British team, arguing that Brown must be "seriously out of touch with Scotland" to support it.[38]
FIFA President Sepp Blatter initially assured each of the British Associations that their status would not be affected by fielding a combined team in 2012.[39] The SFA refused to change its position, arguing that Blatter's personal opinion and permission might not matter once he has left office, and that they did not wish to jeopardise their status.[32] Blatter seemed to change his view in March 2008, when he stated that "they should enter only a team composed of players from England"[40] and he suggested that the independent status of the four British associations could be harmed by a unified team.[40] UEFA chief executive David Taylor, a former chief executive of the SFA, said in August 2008 that a British Olympic team would threaten the existence of the individual home nations.[41] Taylor also said that the unique status of the Home Nations had come under attack before from other FIFA members, and that it was "difficult to see what guarantees could be given" to protect that status.[41] At a conference held in conjunction with the 2008 FIFA Club World Cup in Japan, the prospect of a UK team for the 2012 Olympics was discussed by the FIFA Executive Committee, who gave their approval.[42]

But then, you seem to know everything don't you?

[QPR Richard]

But these countries are trying to get independence so and do have their own own leagues and fa's so surely they don't have the power to just disband that? and the Olympic football doesn't fall under FIFA's umbrella anyway does it?

The SNP is trying to get independence for Scotland, the polls are showing that the Scots will vote to stay in the union. They know when they're onto a good thing. Wales in no way can stand on its own two feet without English subsidies.

Do you not think FIFA have the power to force a merger of the four FAs? Britain is a unified state and enters four football teams for competitions. Other countries send one team. I read an interview on this once and FIFA members questioned why Britain should have four teams entered in competitions. Success at the Olympics will merely strengthen the view that Britain should have a single, unified team from a single, unified country.

Some people are blinkered on this. I have quoted some sources for this concern in a previous post.

[will]

If Britain wins gold at football it would strengthen the case for merging the four home nations FAs. All four supporters associations have warned of this and so has the FIFA President and UEFA Chief Executive.

Rubbish.

Why would it strengthen (or weaken, for that matter) the argument for a unified team? FIFA has always acknowledged that the British clubs are in a unique historical position (i.e. we invented the game), and as long as we maintain separate league systems I have seen nothing said that suggests there is a move towards forcing the national associations to merge.

The Olympics is irrelevant to this argument.

Come on Team GB!

[will]

South Korea overcame that sorta dirty deeds of Blatter against Switzerland few days ago. 2-1

the referees were all horribly supporting Swiss players .

Yep, Blatter ordered the officials to 'support the Swiss players'. It's all a horrendous conspiracy.

[silvercue]

Richard - it isn't ever going to happen. Hardly anyone in the world wants it to happen and a few extremely minor comments that is isn't 100% impossible, one by a mad man, - mean nothing. Opinions in FIFA and UEFA are divided about a number of subjects anyway.

Scotland and Ireland have their own agenda for not joining.

[Rieger]

The SNP is trying to get independence for Scotland, the polls are showing that the Scots will vote to stay in the union. They know when they're onto a good thing. Wales in no way can stand on its own two feet without English subsidies.

Do you not think FIFA have the power to force a merger of the four FAs? Britain is a unified state and enters four football teams for competitions. Other countries send one team. I read an interview on this once and FIFA members questioned why Britain should have four teams entered in competitions. Success at the Olympics will merely strengthen the view that Britain should have a single, unified team from a single, unified country.

Some people are blinkered on this. I have quoted some sources for this concern in a previous post.

Even though it won't happen. You should stop worrying. End of the day what will you do about it?

[QPR Richard]

It would appear that some people think they know more than the President of FIFA, the Chief Executive of UEFA, the officials of the SFA and the WFA, and the official supporters clubs. Despite me presenting evidence, it is still rubbished.

@Will - look at the evidence I've listed. Look at the meetings that have ALREADY taken place on these issues, yet you still deny it.

@Silvercue - where is your evidence to suggest Scotland and Ireland (sic) have their own agendas for not joining? What are these agendas?

[QPR71]

wouldnt you need to disband the spl .... and the awseome wpl...i love GB in say cycling and many others...cant say i give a **** about gb in football..
ive wrestld with loyalty over GB and qpr re ki....qpr are winning

[Shania]

tis gr8 to hear! pleasing news indeed!!!

I really hope QPR quickly sorts out the fee problems with greedy Celtic xD

Some say that Ki might struggle with the physical side of EPL. What´s your assessment on this? I just wonder?

[Connell10]

god some paranoid rantings on here tonight! all i can say is why the hell would i want korea to win? im british and i surpport all our sports people when they are wearing the gb kit, yes even andy murray! all this ****** about england being disbanded and made into a gb team is rubbish! SO COME ON TEAM GB!!!!! oh by the way i also think the gb team play far better football than england do as well!

[QPR Richard]

god some paranoid rantings on here tonight! all i can say is why the hell would i want korea to win? im british and i surpport all our sports people when they are wearing the gb kit, yes even andy murray! all this ****** about england being disbanded and made into a gb team is rubbish! SO COME ON TEAM GB!!!!! oh by the way i also think the gb team play far better football than england do as well!

You Brits don't half like a rant! I just presented evidence from various organisation about the threat of the independence of the four home nation FAs. You can choose to accept it or not. The choice is yours. If you think you know better than all these groups in the football world then I bow to your supreme knowledge.

[RblockTourist]

The actual reason they didnt want it was because on one of the boards, all the home nations have seperate reps on the board and votes where as other places are combined and that is what they are worried about, loosing that status on there.

FIFA and Uefa cannot do anything about making us all play together, one all would just not play, they would withdraw from the competitions and if you think fifa and uefa would let that money go then your a little bit of a numpty.

Also i point you to the case of Andorra and San Marino, Uefa wants as many countries participating as it can, it gives it more strength when handling with Fifa over different matters.