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  • #16
    Originally posted by vanhoop View Post
    Giggs is English,made a big mistake playing for Wales and he knows it
    Absolute cr@p, he's Welsh.

    Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by QPR Richard View Post
      I don't blame them for not singing it because too many idiots seem to think England and Britain are the same thing. They're not. The English seem to have rejected their national identity in favour of the British one. The Welsh and Scots have hung onto theirs. That's why so many Welsh and Scots don't get involved with Britishness, because its also seen as Englishness.

      I'm not supporting this Team GB nonsense. I'm English and my country is not represented, although many of my countrymen and women are competing under the Team GB umbrella. I didn't cheer Andy Murray on at Wimbledon and I won't be cheering him on for Team GB either.
      Why is your country not represented Richard? Genuinely interested. I think Your right with Englishness, being abandoned, but i think it's because to be English is viewed as bad/negative/racist even, because of politicians, and this multicultural thing they're pushing, so they prefer us to all be British, not English. I do think England should have our own Anthem, but these Welshman are representing GB and jumped at the chance to,... so sing the anthem, the one that their Welsh brothers go to war and die for, not much to ask for is it?

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      • #18
        Originally posted by QPRDave View Post
        Why is your country not represented Richard? Genuinely interested. I think Your right with Englishness, being abandoned, but i think it's because to be English is viewed as bad/negative/racist even, because of politicians, and this multicultural thing they're pushing, so they prefer us to all be British, not English. I do think England should have our own Anthem, but these Welshman are representing GB and jumped at the chance to,... so sing the anthem, the one that their Welsh brothers go to war and die for, not much to ask for is it?
        I understand your sentiments on this but our anthem is not about the nation, it is solely about a German woman. Prince Philip's sisters were married to high ranking SS officers during the war and the monarchy were keen to form an alliance with Nazi Germany. I love England but would never sing this anthem. Doesn't make them, or me, any less patriotic.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by QPRDave View Post
          Why is your country not represented Richard? Genuinely interested. I think Your right with Englishness, being abandoned, but i think it's because to be English is viewed as bad/negative/racist even, because of politicians, and this multicultural thing they're pushing, so they prefer us to all be British, not English. I do think England should have our own Anthem, but these Welshman are representing GB and jumped at the chance to,... so sing the anthem, the one that their Welsh brothers go to war and die for, not much to ask for is it?
          Spot on Dave

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          • #20
            Can't believe they made a man who is lower than a snakes belly the skipper? And worse still deepcut is cheering him on? shocking!

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            • #21
              It's lovely to think you lot think of me so often....

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              • #22
                Originally posted by QPRDave View Post
                Why is your country not represented Richard? Genuinely interested. I think Your right with Englishness, being abandoned, but i think it's because to be English is viewed as bad/negative/racist even, because of politicians, and this multicultural thing they're pushing, so they prefer us to all be British, not English. I do think England should have our own Anthem, but these Welshman are representing GB and jumped at the chance to,... so sing the anthem, the one that their Welsh brothers go to war and die for, not much to ask for is it?
                England is represented at the Commonwealth Games but not the Olympics. But look at the wider issue at the eradication of England and the English. Google the term 'nations and regions'. Ask yourself why England is the only country in the union that does not have its own government. Ask yourself why only England pays prescription charges and tuition fees when Scotland gets both free.

                I belong to the Campaign for an English Parliament and have attended several meetings at the House of Commons and appeared on TV and radio several times on the issue of eradication of England and English identity. The issues a lot deeper than you think. The English are slowly but surely being eradicated in favour of Britishness. To be Scottish is to be a braveheart. To be English is to be a racist right wing nutter.

                When you understand how England is being rubbed off the map you'll understand why it's important to oppose Britishness.
                Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.

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                • #23
                  I actualy think you're a brilliant poster deepcut and at least your views have substance and reasoning behind them, you have your own views but most pleasingly you have your own reasons

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                  • #24
                    yes me n deepcut have our differences but he seems an extremely intelligent young man and posts thought provoking threads...........unlike mygoodself !!!
                    you know nothing john snow!!!!

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by QPR Richard View Post
                      England is represented at the Commonwealth Games but not the Olympics. But look at the wider issue at the eradication of England and the English. Google the term 'nations and regions'. Ask yourself why England is the only country in the union that does not have its own government. Ask yourself why only England pays prescription charges and tuition fees when Scotland gets both free.

                      I belong to the Campaign for an English Parliament and have attended several meetings at the House of Commons and appeared on TV and radio several times on the issue of eradication of England and English identity. The issues a lot deeper than you think. The English are slowly but surely being eradicated in favour of Britishness. To be Scottish is to be a braveheart. To be English is to be a racist right wing nutter.

                      When you understand how England is being rubbed off the map you'll understand why it's important to oppose Britishness.
                      So we are pretty much in agreement then to be English is looked down upon. As i said above it suits left wing politics to push Britishness to accommodate multiculturalism. The reason i asked you the question was because i thought England was part of GB so we were represented.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Factamondo View Post
                        capitalism rules!!!
                        Haha.

                        Ever the pragmatist!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Factamondo View Post
                          yes me n deepcut have our differences but he seems an extremely intelligent young man and posts thought provoking threads...........unlike mygoodself !!!
                          if you say so.......:huh:

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by maverick69 View Post
                            Haha.

                            Ever the pragmatist!
                            whats that mean??
                            you know nothing john snow!!!!

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                            • #29
                              not watching it but whoever they are playing i hope the other team win :-)
                              (didnt watch the opening ceremony either but i hear it was embarrassing )

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                              • #30
                                I'd rather they moon the national anthem and ****ing win a game.

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