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Originally posted by QPRWEBBIE View Postcorrect,the whole area will be built up like canary wharf with an overground and undergound station
Believe they are saying Park Royal City to Birmingham will be something like 40mins so we could see away attendances increase for fans visiting the bush too
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Originally posted by QPRWEBBIE View PostWhen Southampton were at The Dell they had a capacity of 15,000 and not always sold it when they moved it to St Marys they got a capacity of 32,000 and sold out each game. Peole like new grounds and the good thing with this is we will go into a new stadium in 3 years time with the best side we have ever had.
To me this says southampton fans like success more than a new stadium. Concern I have is that in our most positive season for a generation we saw an average of about 17k, however we plan to go to 35k capacity in say 5 years or whenever the stadium is built. One of the ways we can get that is being successful on the pitch but how successful will we have to be to double our attendances and be similar to villa, everton and spurs in attendances.
Unless we buy the likes of RVP (that will sell tickets) then I cannot see our current fan base greatly increasing unless the
club try's to find a new fanbase.
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Originally posted by TBLOCKRANGER View PostWhen southamptons new stadium opened I think they were premiership and they averaged about 30k to 31k in those years, when they got relegated to championship they averaged 17k to 23k, league 1 years they went to 20k to 22k and last years promotion season saw 26k.
To me this says southampton fans like success more than a new stadium. Concern I have is that in our most positive season for a generation we saw an average of about 17k, however we plan to go to 35k capacity in say 5 years or whenever the stadium is built. One of the ways we can get that is being successful on the pitch but how successful will we have to be to double our attendances and be similar to villa, everton and spurs in attendances.
Unless we buy the likes of RVP (that will sell tickets) then I cannot see our current fan base greatly increasing unless the
club try's to find a new fanbase.Supporting QPR isn't just about a football team. It's about roots and identity.
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Originally posted by QPR Richard View PostIn your opinion then, do you think we should stay where we are and forget about a new stadium?
We just dodged relegation, we need to cement our place in the premiership. Our signings to date and those we have been linked to aren't those of a club seeking a top half finish let alone a european place.
I think the board have the best intentions but just think, see how we are in two seasons when the training facilities are in place and if all good then start planning for a new ground. We commit ourselves now and go down next season which isn't inconceivable then next summer the talk on these forums won't be about the wonders of a retractable roof.
Only last summer posters were bemoaning the mittals for not buying out Tango and Cash, now posters think they are going to fund the stadium.
The 2013/14 premiership season has the new tv deal money and I think it's that year when plans for a new stadium should be considered as the new cash is immense I think the lowest premiership club gets the same amount that city got for winning the title this season.
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Originally posted by TBLOCKRANGER View PostI have a feeling at least one of the three proposed sites is outside H & F, I wouldn't be surprised if 2 of the proposed sites are outside.
One point getting the physical site but another is how to fill. Our owners must have noted that last season after 15 years in the wilderness and for once having great owners, that fans weren't flooding in, s/t sales werent great and apart from say Man Utd, tickets were available easily to all games, so if you can't sell out 18k following the euphoria of promotion and the maylasian spring, how are we going to sell out regularly 30k. Someone is going to have to fund it and a large proportion will be the fans.
I don't accept fans will simply come and fill the ground because it has a cinema and a hotel attached, and the reason they don't currently come is because of poor facilities. QPR fans are brought up on cramped, poor conditions with poor viewing that why we all have dodgy necks and scrapped knees. I don't know one QPR fan that doesnt go to a game because of conditions of the ground. I know many who don't go because of commitments and cost but those won't change with a new stadium. Prices will be the same or more with a new ground just ask any gooner or bluebird(with a tinge of red).
I therefore believe a new stadium is not going to be filled with existing fans suddenly turning up, we as a club will only achieve increase attendances by finding a new hinterland IMHO.
It's only a guess but I think one of the sites will be in Ealing, the community trust do a lot of work in that borough schooling wise, it's a borough without an existing rival football club, I think the new training ground falls under Ealing, not really influenced by Chelsea or Ealing, lots of young couples with money, loads of schools, land probably cheaper than h & f, local council probably be more favourable by having both ground and training facilities together, policing be easier as no longer have 3 premiership teams in one borough.
I don't know but I would be surprised if Tony and Amit haven't had a good look at Ealing as a potential ground when they were visiting warren farm. Tony has said west London and Ealing has a W postcode.
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Originally posted by Stanley76 View PostDoubt theyre seriously considering Ealing to be honest. Bircham pretty much confirmed on talksport today they want to stay very nearby, saying the top 2 sites targeted are Old white city stadium site or unigate dairy.
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Forget about the stadium lads,.......it'll never happen, according to this fella, they've been there and tried and if they can't do it neither will we, thank god someone's informed us, save Tony alot of money!
Let's be honest, they are trying to do something we tried to do a few years ago and it won't come off. They are going to announce they are are world wide brand, sign Park on Monday as a statement, maybe try and get a few tourists to buy season tickets, look at every site possible in West London, have some very s####y plans drawn up with bridges, retractable roofs etc then..
Come back down to earth with a massive bump as prices spiral over the £100 million quid mark. At the end of it, they will most possibly share with Brentford, revamp the Lofterdrome and do things steadily like we have for 10 years if they've not gone bust before that.
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None of us can make a call on this because we don't know the key financial details. I'm more concerned about those than whether we go to the Beeb or Unigate. However, I am absolutely certain this would not be happening without Mittal finance. All other things being equal, that's good for us but someone, somewhere is going to be financially exposed for a while and I would like to know exactly who that someone is - and how it might effect our dealings in the market. The Arsenal move is a cautionary tale, and yet at the time everyone was saying that it secured their future. A compromised future.
The Southampton thing is not relevant because Saints don't have EPL competition on their doorstep. Plus attendences make up a smaller proportion of top tier income streams than at any time in history. Having said all that, building a decent size venue so close to the middle of London in the heart of R's territory is a massive opportunity, especially with the transport development that's going on down the road. It's just that an awful lot of boxes need ticking first....
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I just hope they build a replica of Loftus Road ..just bigger and with more toilets and bars where fans can mix before and after games and a Stadium with no restricted views.and be as close to the pitch as we are now....not to much to ask for is it ?
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Originally posted by walshyw10 View PostI just hope they build a replica of Loftus Road ..just bigger and with more toilets and bars where fans can mix before and after games and a Stadium with no restricted views.and be as close to the pitch as we are now....not to much to ask for is it ?PRIDE OF LONDON.
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