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  • #16
    Couldn't agree more GaxZE
    Right observation, Ferdinand stands off from his opponent too often
    Maybe the Terry business got to him , more then we can understand


    Originally posted by GaxZE View Post
    if nelson was 38/39 then yeah id agree.. he's never been fast he's been a leader at the back, spurs fans i speak to talk highly of him in his short spell.

    Nelson will be our main CB next year.. and unless we sign somebody else id want hill next to him. Gazxx

    I just dont rate ferdinand at this level. too many mistakes / needs somebody commanding next to him to perform.

    Remember him and onouha at cb? it was a disaster - only when hill came in did ferdinand look assured.
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    • #17
      Originally posted by GaxZE View Post
      if nelson was 38/39 then yeah id agree.. he's never been fast he's been a leader at the back, spurs fans i speak to talk highly of him in his short spell.

      Nelson will be our main CB next year.. and unless we sign somebody else id want hill next to him.

      I just dont rate ferdinand at this level. too many mistakes / needs somebody commanding next to him to perform.

      Remember him and onouha at cb? it was a disaster - only when hill came in did ferdinand look assured.
      Once again spot on mate. I'd rather play hill n nelson together.Ferdinands always been a liability and was a panic buy

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      • #18
        [QUOTE=Pey;889996]Couldn't agree more GaxZE
        Right observation, Ferdinand stands off from his opponent too often
        Maybe the Terry business got to him , more then we can understand[/QUOTE]

        Agreed,I seem to remember he had a dip in form after that incident.
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        • #19
          Defoe,Gallas,Naughton and Samba............JOB DONE

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          • #20
            Originally posted by QPRWEBBIE View Post
            Defoe,Gallas,Naughton and Samba............JOB DONE
            So you would be happy with 9 signings and 5 being defenders, 1 keeper, 2 strikers of which at least 1 is a reserve striker and 1 midfielder we already had on loan....?

            I think you need to reassess our needs.

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            • #21
              This is how I see the squad shaping up:

              GK - Green/Cerny/Murphy

              RB - Onouha/Young CB - Ferdinand/Hill/Nelsen/### LB - Fabio/###

              RM - Mackie/SWP CM - Diakite/Faurlin/Barton/Derry LM - Traore/Taraabt

              CF - Cisse/Zamora/Johnson/DJ?

              That's 20 so far. If we assume Dyer and Buzz will be named in the squad, then I think we need another LB, CB, and another CM. if DJ or Betty don't make it, then another CF. We should be ok going in with four strikers because Adel and Mackie can play up front. Onouha can operate as 5th choice CB if required, and Traore can operate as 3rd choice LB.

              Just my take on it anyway.
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              • #22
                ferdinand was good next to hill because theyre playing styles complimented each other. ferdinand was a quality defender at sweeping up behind hill, which is why he seemed to stand off of his man as his job wasnt to get stuck in it was to sweep up loose balls and make sure nothing slipped through, hill on the other hand was the man who put in the tackles and the headers and did a great job at doing so. this is why we improved at the back as we had complimentary players who excelled at different jobs at the back.

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                • #23
                  A Good CB and CM and we should be ok for next season,think Hughes wants a striker and a winger as well,do expect some money to be spent(apart from the €3 million for SD).
                  Last edited by Rebel R's; 06-07-2012, 12:14 AM.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by QPR Richard View Post
                    This is how I see the squad shaping up:

                    GK - Green/Cerny/Murphy

                    RB - Onouha/Young CB - Ferdinand/Hill/Nelsen/### LB - Fabio/###

                    RM - Mackie/SWP CM - Diakite/Faurlin/Barton/Derry LM - Traore/Taraabt

                    CF - Cisse/Zamora/Johnson/DJ?

                    That's 20 so far. If we assume Dyer and Buzz will be named in the squad, then I think we need another LB, CB, and another CM. if DJ or Betty don't make it, then another CF. We should be ok going in with four strikers because Adel and Mackie can play up front. Onouha can operate as 5th choice CB if required, and Traore can operate as 3rd choice LB.

                    Just my take on it anyway.
                    not far off. dont think we need another left back as traore and hill can both play perfectly well there and neither likely to be first choice in their other positions. Was said on here the other day Buz had left? Think DJ to Leeds or somewhere similar. Comanding centre half the massive priority and another centre mid wd be useful as barton suspended and probably out of the door, faurlin fitness unknown and if we want to play with three in centre midfield that leaves us with Derry - who fine servant etc etc doesnt have the legs to be a starter next year imho. No Heider or Betty?

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by QPR Richard View Post
                      This is how I see the squad shaping up:

                      GK - Green/Cerny/Murphy

                      RB - Onouha/Young CB - Ferdinand/Hill/Nelsen/### LB - Fabio/###

                      RM - Mackie/SWP CM - Diakite/Faurlin/Barton/Derry LM - Traore/Taraabt

                      CF - Cisse/Zamora/Johnson/DJ?

                      That's 20 so far. If we assume Dyer and Buzz will be named in the squad, then I think we need another LB, CB, and another CM. if DJ or Betty don't make it, then another CF. We should be ok going in with four strikers because Adel and Mackie can play up front. Onouha can operate as 5th choice CB if required, and Traore can operate as 3rd choice LB.

                      Just my take on it anyway.
                      Pretty much how I see it too, taking into account Stainrod's comment regards not necessarily requiring another LB. Transfer wise, IMHO, I think a solid CB and we are pretty much in a very good position, squad wise. Anything more, for me, is a bonus.
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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Rebel R's View Post
                        A Good CB and CM and we should be ok for next season,think Hughes wants a striker and a winger as well,do expect some money to be spent(apart from the €3 million for SD).
                        Agree. Would you prefer technical or tough CM? Silva-or De Jong-type?

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Timmy the Doc View Post
                          Agree. Would you prefer technical or tough CM? Silva-or De Jong-type?
                          I think we have the tough CM in SD,Derry and Barton when he comes back,do would like an attacking midfielder.Many on here like matty seem to keep ignoring the fact that Barton is out for 3 months and Faurlin is extremely unlikely to be fit for the start of the season,so that only leaves Derry,so it is most important we sort that position out,it's the most important one for me,but I'm sure Hughes knows that already

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                          • #28
                            Definitely think we need and will get another CM.

                            Barton suspended and quite possibly shipped out, Faurlin coming back from serious injury, Derry 34.

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                            • #29
                              Altho I think he will get a CM I also think he could have ideas there with our current squad. Fabio is versatile and I'm sure has also played in the middle for Utd. He's technically excellent, tenacious, defensively minded and great going forward so could play slightly advanced of Diakite. I also think Traore could be tried in midfield for almost identical reasons. He also always makes himself available for the ball and wants it even in tight areas. I think he could do a good job if required.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Rebel R's View Post
                                A Good CB and CM and we should be ok for next season,think Hughes wants a striker and a winger as well,do expect some money to be spent(apart from the €3 million for SD).
                                Agree with your other comments esp the need for someone to play CM but as a fan base we HAVE to grow out of this idea that the board has 'only' spent 3m. The money that has left or will leave the bank account of the club as a result of Mark Hughes's transfer activity SO FAR this summer will, at a wild guess, be nothing short of £20m. Just think in an earlier window Joey Barton's "free transfer" committed the club to a reported £15m in signing on fees/ salary. Take Rob Green. Bet there was a couple of million signing on fee (or if not massively increased wages to reflect the "free" nature of the transfer) and probably 30/40k a week for, what, three years? If you do the math, that alone is serious money. I probably want very similar additions to the ones you seek but just think we should be far, far more mindful of what the board has already invested and on gates of 16k the money sure isn't coming from the fans.

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