My Team For Next Year If We Dont Sign Anyone Else

[paulmason]

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IMO that team would get murdered as any team that leaves three up top (Adel is not a box to box player) would be committing suicide.

Adel's best/most effective position is behind the striker, but as Mark Hughes has Cisse, Zamora and Johnson to choose from, I cant see that happening if they are fit.

Traore is a better option to play on the left wing than Taarabt and Faurlin and if QPR did sign Buttner, he would also be a better option on the left than Adel.

Mackie is a far better option than Taarabt on the right and I think you could put your mortgage on him starting against Swansea in that position, as TF and MH gave him improved terms as soon as the Man City dust had settled.

Horses for courses I know, but I do giggle the way people try to shoehorn Adel into their starting line up, but the simple fact is two goals and a few assists does not warrant a guaranteed starting place.

[stainrodisalegend]

IMO that team would get murdered as any team that leaves three up top (Adel is not a box to box player) would be committing suicide.

Adel's best/most effective position is behind the striker, but as Mark Hughes has Cisse, Zamora and Johnson to choose from, I cant see that happening if they are fit.

Traore is a better option to play on the left wing than Taarabt and Faurlin and if QPR did sign Buttner, he would also be a better option on the left than Adel.

Mackie is a far better option than Taarabt on the right and I think you could put your mortgage on him starting against Swansea in that position, as TF and MH gave him improved terms as soon as the Man City dust had settled.

Horses for courses I know, but I do giggle the way people try to shoehorn Adel into their starting line up, but the simple fact is two goals and a few assists does not warrant a guaranteed starting place.

I know you are not a fan of Adel and that is fair enough but I notice you say Buttner, who now plays primarily as a left back, would be better on the left side of midfield than the man who pretty well single-handedly got us promoted. Take your point that Adel wasn't brilliant for large parts of last season but can I just ask how many times you have seen young Buttner play? I have to hold my hand up and say I've never seen him, not once, but that if we did sign him my assumption (perhaps wrongly) is that he will be our left back. Maybe you get to see more of the Dutch league than me and not having a go but just interested in what you base that opinion on. Cheers.

[stainrodisalegend]

Like Stanley's teams - where I differ is I think we need another defensive midfielder for away games as in fairness to Mason his point about that team being murdered away has some truth in it. Hughes has already said his priority is to make us harder to beat, particularly away. That is why a commanding centre back to replace Hill and a tough midfielder to replace Derry is a priority.

[Stanley]

Adel's best/most effective position is behind the striker, but as Mark Hughes has Cisse, Zamora and Johnson to choose from, I cant see that happening if they are fit.

Unless he opts for a lone striker, which he does for certain games, then I can certainly see him utilising Adel in that role.

[Stanley]

Like Stanley's teams - where I differ is I think we need another defensive midfielder for away games

Well we'll have this option come November Stain :

[paulmason]

I know you are not a fan of Adel and that is fair enough but I notice you say Buttner, who now plays primarily as a left back, **would be better on the left side of midfield than the man who pretty well single-handedly got us promoted. Take your point that Adel wasn't brilliant for large parts of last season but can I just ask how many times you have seen young Buttner play? I have to hold my hand up and say I've never seen him, not once, but that if we did sign him my assumption (perhaps wrongly) is that he will be our left back. Maybe you get to see more of the Dutch league than me and not having a go but just interested in what you base that opinion on. Cheers.

** Stainrod, When are you going to understand that what someone does in the Championship, unfortunately means FA in the PL if they cant/dont do it there, as everyone has their level (eg: Wayne Routledge), so its about time you focused on what he done last season which was no a lot and not what he did the year before when he was brilliant, but in an easier league.

Also, I am a fan of Adel when played in his natural position behind the striker, where he is able to do what he does best, without affecting the shape or balance of the team and regarding Buttner, I know some people have incorrectly refereed to him as a left back, as you have, but he is a midfielder that can also play at left back and looking at the you tube clip someone posted on here, it would suggest he is not a defender, as does the following.

http://www.vitesse.nl/en/spelers/vitesse/14

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_B%C3%BCttner

http://www.soccerbase.com/players/player.sd?player_id=55763&season_id=141

http://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/southampton-target-alexander-buttner-the-vitesse-944677

[paulmason]

Unless he opts for a lone striker, which he does for certain games, then I can certainly see him utilising Adel in that role.

I agree, but I just cant see MH leaving Cisse, Zamora or Johnson on the bench if they are fit and healthy, for Adel, especially when he has stated he wants to make us harder to beat. I can see him playing one up top away from home, but with 5 in the middle though.

-------- ????? ---- Faurlin --------
- Mackie ---- Diakite ---- Traore -
---- Cisse / Zamora / Johnson ---

[Stanley]

I agree, but I just cant see MH leaving Cisse, Zamora or Johnson on the bench if they are fit and healthy, for Adel, especially when he has stated he wants to make us harder to beat. I can see him playing one up top away from home, but with 5 in the middle though.

-------- ????? ---- Faurlin --------
- Mackie ---- Diakite ---- Traore -
---- Cisse / Zamora / Johnson ---

True, but I can see Sparky starting him in this role for home games.

[paulmason]

True, but I can see Sparky starting him in this role for home games.

I can only see MH playing one striker at home, when he is closing out a game and do you remember all the abuse previous managers got on here for only playing one striker ?

[silvercue]

I can only see MH playing one striker at home, when he is closing out a game and do you remember all the abuse previous managers got on here for only playing one striker ?

I don't agree - I think MH will play 1 striker at home in at least 25-30% of our games. If it works - maybe more. Managers are moving away from rigid 4-4-2 and 1 up front in the Prem is getting more common especially when you are fightimg really hard for every point.

[QPR Richard]

Depending on who we're playing and the state of the game, I think we'll go 4-5-1 quite often.

Green

Ned Ferdinand Hill Fabio

Mackie Barton Diakite Faurlin Traore

Cisse

Of course this is when Barton is back, otherwise Derry.

[paulmason]

I don't agree - I think MH will play 1 striker at home in at least 25-30% of our games. If it works - maybe more. Managers are moving away from rigid 4-4-2 and 1 up front in the Prem is getting more common especially when you are fightimg really hard for every point.

For me the most effective formation is 4-2-3-1 and is what I would play week in week out, with the middle of the three being Zamora, for holding up the ball to bring wingers into play and nodding/playing in Cisse or Taarabt for his creativity behind Cisse, but MH does seem to like playing with two strikers.

[Stanley]

I can only see MH playing one striker at home, when he is closing out a game and do you remember all the abuse previous managers got on here for only playing one striker ?

Perhaps we should gradually be moving more to the Spanish model of GK as sweeper, 2 CBs and 8 MFs.

It seems to have worked quite well for them

[silvercue]

Perhaps we should gradually be moving more to the Spanish model of GK as sweeper, 2 CBs and 8 MFs.

It seems to have worked quite well for them

Although people say they played with no striker - they played with 3 forwards, they just don't play as strikers for their clubs. Cesc had it right when he said that people that have criticised them don't understand football.

[Stanley]

Although people say they played with no striker - they played with 3 forwards, they just don't play as strikers for their clubs. Cesc had it right when he said that people that have criticised them don't understand football.

Agree with Cesc. It's the closest thing we've seen to the 'total football' of the Dutch in '74 and the Brazilians of 1970.