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  • #16
    Originally posted by TBLOCKRANGER View Post
    Not one of those can pick up a ball from deep and boss a game and that's what you need to win a European/world cup
    In a few more years + experience....I can see Jack Wilshere doing what you have just said.
    "When you went to the corner and saw our fans celebrating the way they were you just wanted to be part of it" - Shaun Derry after we beat the scum 1-0

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    • #17
      Originally posted by SuperHoopNik View Post
      Joe Hart, Kyle Walker, Phil Jones, Chris Smalling, Bertrand, Adam Johnson, Jack Wilshere, Oxlade-Chamberlain, Danny Welbeck, Sturridge, Micah Richards, Nick Powell, Nathan Redmond...........This will be the real 'Golden Age'.........mark my words!
      yeah... i really like the sound of that.

      portugal are, imo, really comparable to england at the mo'... over-reliant on a handful of players, but the difference is, i don't see where their next generation comes from. we could learn a lot from germany where the good of national mannschaft always comes before individual teams - we shouldn't have so much of this 'cap-in-hand' begging from the national team for players to be available for international duty (imo, this is the real problem of all the cash that sloshes around the premier league).

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      • #18
        Couldve give the Waps another hour and they wouldn't have scored,better side at pens.
        Ooh northern lads love gravy

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        • #19
          Originally posted by vanhoop View Post
          Couldve give the Waps another hour and they wouldn't have scored,better side at pens.
          two posts and hart making a cple of class saves van kept england in the game. they were far better mate.
          PRIDE OF LONDON.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by bushcelt1 View Post
            hinders young british players getting game time. problem is if you stop the influx now then your left with a sithe lge.
            Who cares about British players, we should only care about English players as its an English league, just like the Germans did years ago and who now use their league to benefit the national team.
            Last edited by paulmason; 25-06-2012, 08:14 AM.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by klonk View Post
              yeah... i really like the sound of that.

              portugal are, imo, really comparable to england at the mo'... over-reliant on a handful of players, but the difference is, i don't see where their next generation comes from
              Portugal have plenty of young talent on their way and also a squad for this euro with almost every player under 30. For England it's time for a new generation. Gerrard, lampard and terry are all finished at this level now.

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              • #22
                I disagree about Gerrard, I think he was by far our best player and I think in part it was due to his captaincy that we did as well as we did.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by SuperHoopNik View Post
                  ---------------Hart------------
                  ----Walker-Jones-Jagielka-Cole----
                  A.Johnson-Gerrard-Wilshere-Chamberlain
                  ----------Rooney-Welbeck------------

                  We play this squad at the World Cup and we'll go far...
                  Id do the same but with Cahill in for Jagielka.
                  You should never underestimate the predictability of stupidity.

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                  • #24
                    No winter break...too many games...PL/Sky at commercial odds with the FA...so many reasons why the national team are given no favours whatsoever, it's hardly a surprise. Stan Collymore was right last night when he said the England players looked totally dead on their feet.

                    Couple that with our inferior technical ability to simply RETAIN possession of a football and be able to accurately pass to a team-mate when under pressure (like the Germans, Croatians, Greeks, Spanish, Portugese, Italians, French can ALL do with ease) and it's obvious we'll always remain a 1/4 final team AT BEST.

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                    • #25
                      I love this after every quarter final defeat, we should have changed the way we teach kids after the World Cup 2002 , it will all be forgotten when the qualifiers start, and England get through to another tournament, go to South America, fail, then come home to another why are we no good at keeping the ball investigation....

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                      • #26
                        So what is it? Foreigners are stealing game time or the players are too tired. Certainly cant have both. No player good enough for England should struggle to get playing time because there are some foreigners in the league.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Stanley76 View Post
                          No winter break...too many games...PL/Sky at commercial odds with the FA...so many reasons why the national team are given no favours whatsoever, it's hardly a surprise. Stan Collymore was right last night when he said the England players looked totally dead on their feet.

                          Couple that with our inferior technical ability to simply RETAIN possession of a football and be able to accurately pass to a team-mate when under pressure (like the Germans, Croatians, Greeks, Spanish, Portugese, Italians, French can ALL do with ease) and it's obvious we'll always remain a 1/4 final team AT BEST.
                          GREEKS??!? Or we could try and win more that 15% of our Penalties.

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                          • #28
                            If you teach kids from ages 9 onwards in academy's that possession is king, to teach them in small sided games where you have to receive the ball under pressure and to work on both feet, you will produce better technical players for the future. This is starting to happen but not everywhere because we are still in a win at all cost bubble over here.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Kimimar0 View Post
                              GREEKS??!?
                              Yes, Greeks. Even they are better at keeping hold of the ball than us.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Stanley76 View Post
                                Yes, Greeks. Even they are better at keeping hold of the ball than us.
                                Yes they are, the only team we could match for ball retention is Ireland..

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