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  • #31
    Not a fan of HH, and he's clearly lacking in form and confidence.. and maybe he's past it.
    For me, he's not the answer, neither is Pat Agyemang... and as a goalscorer, neither is Vine.


    But I think HH is being singled out a bit too much here. The sitter that Vine missed, the failure to hit the target by Balanta, Pat, Tarabbt etc..
    It seems to be becoming a bit of a witchhunt on HH... when the blame should be shared around a bit more.

    We are toothless up front, and that aspect of the team is letting the rest of our side down - but it's not just HH.

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    • #32
      He's had opportunity to score many times and prove us wrong, but somehow contrives to miss, Saturday for example, only he could hit the bar from there.
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      • #33
        Originally posted by qblockpete View Post
        I just say give him time, he hardly played towards the end of last season. I#ll make my judgement after 6-7 games, not one.

        Shame, that following Cerny and Ramage he is now our boo boy, we never learn.
        Pete, that's a poor example.

        Over the time you've known me, when have I ever been looking for a boo boy?

        As a matter of fact, I always support the boo boy when I feel It's wrong. I maintained Stewart was making more mistakes than Zesh which was true. I said all along that Ramage would come good. I supported Mahon when he got stick whilst players like Parejo were allowed to get away with poor perfomances. I always backed Dex when our fans slagged him yet were happy with the contribution of Di Carmine.

        I don't just moan for the sake of it. In fact I even tried to back heider until what I saw on Saturday and that's a fact. The guy has missed far too many chances since he joined us. The miss on his Debut at Palace cost us 2 points and they were not the only two he cost us that season. In effect...he has already cost us 2 points this season, so how many more of these are we going to have to let him get away with before you admit we were right.

        Now, I won't boo or jeer him but I also will not insult my fellow fans football knowledge by stating he is a good striker.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Robbo View Post
          Not a fan of HH, and he's clearly lacking in form and confidence.. and maybe he's past it.
          For me, he's not the answer, neither is Pat Agyemang... and as a goalscorer, neither is Vine.


          But I think HH is being singled out a bit too much here. The sitter that Vine missed, the failure to hit the target by Balanta, Pat, Tarabbt etc..
          It seems to be becoming a bit of a witchhunt on HH... when the blame should be shared around a bit more.

          We are toothless up front, and that aspect of the team is letting the rest of our side down - but it's not just HH.

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          • #35
            To be fair, I know you don't boo. I was simply saying that in general we do not learn Helguson has become the new Peter Ramage. Before that, we had Cerny, Borrowdale, Gorkss and list goes on
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            • #36
              Since HH arrived my opinion has been to give him time, but by the end of last season i really started to get frustrated with him! I was suprised to see him get the number 9 shirt.

              But, fresh from a full pre season under his belt i too thought he might still come good, i agree we need to give him a little more time, but many more performances like saturday and peoples patience is gonna wear thin, he was knowhere to be seen for the entire match!

              He needs to show us a improvement and quick!
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              • #37
                It's really quite simple. He just can't cut it. Whatever he had before has been gone for some time now. He is well off the pace and doesn't seem to have a clue what's going on. Time to put him out to pasture... I'm not referring to Helguson either.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by qblockpete View Post
                  To be fair, I know you don't boo. I was simply saying that in general we do not learn Helguson has become the new Peter Ramage. Before that, we had Cerny, Borrowdale, Gorkss and list goes on
                  I know what you're saying mate, but my point is that i've usually been a good judge. Even when Aggy had his purple patch, I told you he'd soon stop. I also (even though I gave him credit for POTY) stood by my thoughts on Stewart.

                  Now...I'm not saying I'm the oracle and know all about the game, but I'm rarely that far wrong. With Heider, I said from the start that he'd be a good idea as this was his level, but he has never looked like regaining that confidence he had with Watford. He's not even looked good on the ball since about his 10th appearence for us.

                  Again, all the time he's on the field, I may moan about to my mates but I'll never berrate him at football as it does no favours to anyone, but perfomances lake his on saturday are getting increasingly harder to defend...so much that I acctually can't bring myself to do it.
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                  • #39
                    Gotta say, we are scraping the barrel here Pete!

                    He should not need to be justified by clips on You Tube for goals he has scored for OTHER clubs, he should be doing it for us.........he isn't

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                    • #40
                      anyone got a video of his miss at palace?
                      Last edited by Sam-QPR; 10-08-2009, 07:23 PM.

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                      • #41
                        Okay, so who partners Tarrabt up front?
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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by qblockpete View Post
                          Okay, so who partners Tarrabt up front?
                          Ramage:surrender:

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by qblockpete View Post
                            Okay, so who partners Tarrabt up front?
                            Tarrabt shouldn't be up front,he is not and never will be a striker.
                            As for HH the only thing i hope with him is he finds another club....he is not going to regain any sort of form,and the chances he keeps missing game after game are now going to cost us with Tarrabt playing up top and nobody else to put the ball in the net.

                            Getting sick of hearing we don't need another striker.....but of course Pete has to be right.....i used to respect most of what you said,but now you are tiresome........

                            EDIT: also showing old goals,lol smells of desperation.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by qblockpete View Post
                              Okay, so who partners Tarrabt up front?
                              GP or you, as you 2 seem to be the only ones who think he can play up front

                              now i wonder why

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by pkloft View Post
                                GP or you, as you 2 seem to be the only ones who think he can play up front

                                now i wonder why
                                you really are on form with the low blows.....but it's all good

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