Thank you to Stanley76

[MattyRangers]

Paul,
Very difficult to moderate words, they don't listen!

Individual posters are moderated not just on some of the words used, but often due to the intent behind it. Hence, when some try to be clever and use words that don't appear to be that bad at all, they forget that we can spot the intent, despite not being very good.

The simple facts are, as I am sure you are only too aware, that this is a forum to discuss all things QPR related with other QPR fans and occasionally, those of other clubs. On almost any subject one could care to mention, there are bound to be differing opinions. You are as entitled to yours as anybody else, but what we are saying is that we will not tolerate either personal attacks on other posters or behaviour that makes them feel uncomfortable in any way. If that means we have to lose the odd one or two in order to make this place more fun for the majority, then rest assured it will be done.

Not too sure what your definition of a Lib Dem is, or what the 'urban dictionary' you have been looking at explains it as, but I think you may simply be falling into the common trap of using phrases such as those, in an attempt to put someone down, having completely misjudged the person you are aiming them at. There are two posters that spring to mind who are often categorised in such a way by others, but who have NEVER, NOT ONCE, complained to the moderating team about comments directed at THEM. Strange that, isnt it.

All we ever ask is that members treat others in a manner that they would expect to be treated themselves. And if they are unable to control themselves to that small extent, then perhaps they would be better off posting on sites that don't care about their members.

No there isnt. :drunk:

[Kirill]

Mods on here are not horrible at all, they are just not that good. They moderate the person saying something, not what is said and appear to all be members of the Lib Dems.

Quid pro quo Paul, I guess you would not mind being referred to as a BNP member for instance? I mean it is a legitimate political party, just like Lib Dems are, hence no offence?

[paulmason]

Quid pro quo Paul, I guess you would not mind being referred to as a BNP member for instance? I mean it is a legitimate political party, just like Lib Dems are, hence no offence?

Pointless as usuall from you.

[Quaz]

Pointless as usuall from you.

[stainrodisalegend]

Pointless as usuall from you.

So your snide little dig about the Lib Dems was so important you had to edit it three times but when Kirill asked if you would, in return, mind others making similar assumptions about your politics you responded "Pointless as usuall [for the record Paul most of us usually spell it "usual"]. As must be evident to all other posters, Kirill was entirely to the point. And given some of your posts, I would say your politics are even money between BNP and Monster Raving Loony. You seem to have an issue with the politics of the people who run this board. For the record I have no idea who the other mods vote for because funnily enough this is a FOOTBALL forum - any more than if I went on a politics website I would get into discussion about what football team those posters support. Believe it or not Paul just because you might not come across Liberal Democrats (or socialists or Conservatives) in your BNP or Raving Loony circles there are plenty of them out there. You need to learn to respect other opinions, including those not found in the Daily Mail. If you could only try that you might get on with people a bit better on here. Cheers.

[Stanley]

Whoah is this thread still going!

was that when i got banned for .....hold on...am i allowed to comment on the hilarious embarrassing reason i got infraction points and banned ???? no...cos i was threatened with another ban if i tell anybody about it... saving a certain someone blushes

Well seeing as you bring it up, that was me that banned you mate (I know you were dying to know) for insulting other posters as usual, and if you keep bitching and moaning about it then I'll gladly just ban you again, without a second's hesitation (especially as Kirill is away for a few days )

And yes I'm picking on you because youre the biggest culprit on this site at it...you and Mason that is

[vblockranger]

Whoah is this thread still going!



Well seeing as you bring it up, that was me that banned you mate (I know you were dying to know) for insulting other posters as usual, and if you keep bitching and moaning about it then I'll gladly just ban you again, without a second's hesitation (especially as Kirill is away for a few days )

And yes I'm picking on you because youre the biggest culprit on this site at it...you and Mason that is

lol i knew it was you mate :-)..always touch a raw nerve with you..was that why you wanted to quit being a mod?..and actually i got infraction points from you for saying that i hope Robbie Savage breaks a leg on Strictly Dance which you claimed was "Hate Speech" ...like i said hilarious
anyhow nice to see you havent given in and have been talked down....welcome back
If i get bans or infractions from Quaz or Brighton then i know i have probably earned them because they are fair moderators good at the job but you on the other hand are not fair or particularly good at it. You seem to take things to personally and let emotions rule your moderation...need to chill a bit mate

[Stanley]

lol i knew it was you mate :-)..always touch a raw nerve with you..was that why you wanted to quit being a mod?..and actually i got infraction points from you for saying that i hope Robbie Savage breaks a leg on Strictly Dance which you claimed was "Hate Speech" ...like i said hilarious
anyhow nice to see you havent given in and have been talked down....welcome back
If i get bans or infractions from Quaz or Brighton then i know i have probably earned them because they are fair moderators good at the job but you on the other hand are not fair or particularly good at it. You seem to take things to personally and let emotions rule your moderation...need to chill a bit mate

Your infraction points for the Savage thread were of course fully deserved as IMHO were in pretty poor taste, considering it was on a tribute thread for his old man who'd just died. So nothing "hilarious" about it at all. But by your own recent admission, you have very few morals anyway, so its hardly surprising that you disagree on this as well as other points.

Brighton has never given a single ban or infraction (up to now), that's not his style and he has other ways, so youre wrong on that count.

Ok let's get a couple of things straight mate - as far as moderating on here, people's views and politics make zero difference to me. Taking yourself as an example, whether I agree with you or not, I will pick you up if you break the forum rules. 99% of posters here rarely even get warnings let alone points, and on the rare occasion they do, most of the time they'll hold their hands up to it. But youre one of the few that likes throwing his toys out of the pram.

Anyway, it's really simple mate - stick to the rules and I'm sure we'll all get along swimmingly.

Break them or bleat about them (including how we administer them) and you'll be out on your ear before you can say "guardian reading yoghurt-knitter".

Rule 1b for you again: While debating and discussion is fine, we will not tolerate rudeness, insulting posts, personal attacks.

I and all other mods agree that you have breached this quite a bit lately. No longer though. And if you think its fine to insult someone then follow it with a happy smiley to pass it off as banter, then wrong again too. We think the rules here are pretty fair and they've worked well over the years.

And lastly, the moderator's decision is always final. IOW it's our way or the highway, your choice mate. There's plenty of other QPR forums out there youre welcome to try out. I've been doing this gig for about a year now and frankly you and Paul are the only two problematic posters in my experience. Everyone else has been sound with me on the whole. The vast majority of posters we never need to get strict with but in a few rare cases we do unfortunately. If you don't think I'm a particularly good mod, that's fine mate, go crying to Quaz if you like, I really couldn't give a flying fig, but I will always call things as I see them

[vblockranger]

see what i mean...very emotional

i am actually sensing some dislike in your post mate and that makes me sad as the last thing i want to do is cause any animosity between us

[Stanley]

see what i mean...very emotional

i am actually sensing some dislike in your post mate and that makes me sad as the last thing i want to do is cause any animosity between us

To be emotional is to be human...as opposed to an automaton mod which I'm sure you'd like a lot less

No dislike or animosity at all mate...just so long as everything's clear now

[brightonr]

Vblock,

I'm sorry if this sounds like a rant or what our friend Mr Mason would refer to as a sermon, but just use some common sense for a moment and try to take it in the spirit it is meant.

As I have stated before on numerous occasions, I personally do not like to issue either warnings or points. I have always tried to explain things as I see it, which because it takes much longer and a lot more effort, can seem a bit like preaching/pontificating. It is never meant as such.

I really feel that the best way forward for you is to forget what may have occurred in the past, as it's in the past and instead try to be a little more sympathetic to other peoples opinions. After all, we are almost all Rangers fans, all members of WATRB's and as such, should be at the very least respectful to each other as a starting point. I'm pretty sure you weren't very keen on me some time back, but got used to me eventually.

Sorry for going on, but if we can sort this issue out now, we won't have to keep having further instances of it, which we as a site do not want as it puts people off. The aim of this site is that we can all talk about Rangers and football. To discuss concerns and to share opinions. To have a laugh when the opportunity arises. To be happy for each other when things are going well. And to help each other through all the frustrations when they're not. It is not about debating the rules of this forum. They are already in place and unlikely to change. Nearly everyone abides by them all the time, some occasionally overstep the mark and just a tiny minority appear to be always on the look out for confrontation. Please don't put yourself into the last category.

Disagree with people by all means. But we should all remember that it isn't a contest to prove our opinions are right and other people's are wrong. It's not going to have too much adverse effect on our lives if we cannot get people to see things from our perspective.

Finally, (thank goodness), I have just seen your latest post. The fact that you mention being saddened by a potential dislike is a positive sign; evidence of caring. You'll just have to trust me on this, but there is no personal animosity from Stanley towards you at all. He doesn't operate like that. For the record, none of us do. If you still suspect otherwise though, please just PM him or myself if you find it easier. All we are trying to do with the moderation is attempt to ensure that this is a place that everyone can enjoy and feel welcome and wanted. And that includes you.

[paulmason]

So judging by the sermons above, my observation and comment that mods moderate the person saying something, not what is said, appears to be 100% correct.

[vblockranger]

Vblock,

I'm sorry if this sounds like a rant or what our friend Mr Mason would refer to as a sermon, but just use some common sense for a moment and try to take it in the spirit it is meant.

As I have stated before on numerous occasions, I personally do not like to issue either warnings or points. I have always tried to explain things as I see it, which because it takes much longer and a lot more effort, can seem a bit like preaching/pontificating. It is never meant as such.

I really feel that the best way forward for you is to forget what may have occurred in the past, as it's in the past and instead try to be a little more sympathetic to other peoples opinions. After all, we are almost all Rangers fans, all members of WATRB's and as such, should be at the very least respectful to each other as a starting point. I'm pretty sure you weren't very keen on me some time back, but got used to me eventually.

Sorry for going on, but if we can sort this issue out now, we won't have to keep having further instances of it, which we as a site do not want as it puts people off. The aim of this site is that we can all talk about Rangers and football. To discuss concerns and to share opinions. To have a laugh when the opportunity arises. To be happy for each other when things are going well. And to help each other through all the frustrations when they're not. It is not about debating the rules of this forum. They are already in place and unlikely to change. Nearly everyone abides by them all the time, some occasionally overstep the mark and just a tiny minority appear to be always on the look out for confrontation. Please don't put yourself into the last category.

Disagree with people by all means. But we should all remember that it isn't a contest to prove our opinions are right and other people's are wrong. It's not going to have too much adverse effect on our lives if we cannot get people to see things from our perspective.

Finally, (thank goodness), I have just seen your latest post. The fact that you mention being saddened by a potential dislike is a positive sign; evidence of caring. You'll just have to trust me on this, but there is no personal animosity from Stanley towards you at all. He doesn't operate like that. For the record, none of us do. If you still suspect otherwise though, please just PM him or myself if you find it easier. All we are trying to do with the moderation is attempt to ensure that this is a place that everyone can enjoy and feel welcome and wanted. And that includes you.

fair enough Brighton and i admire the way that you yourself moderate. Always mediating in a thread that gets a bit hot with wise words and a calming influence. Thats how it should be done. I am always going to clash with 5 or 6 of the posters on here because we are just at different ends of the spectrum when it comes down to opinions and views on subjects...be that violence/homosexuality/racism/political correctness. It wasnt so long ago when i was called and labelled a racist/bigot/thug for my views and opinions (which i still maintain are views and opinions shared by the majority in this country). I am not going to sit down and shut up and will continue arguing my views and opinions.All in all its only a QPR messageboard and if a couple of the mods on here dont like my opinions then its easy enough for them to ban me...no biggy i'll live

[paulmason]

if a couple of the mods on here dont like my opinions then its easy enough for them to ban me...no biggy i'll live

Why would you be banned because a moderator on WATRB does not like your opinions, as brighton (best of a bad bunch) said, "we should all remember that it isn't a contest to prove our opinions are right and other people's are wrong", they should just have to move on to the next thread like they are telling you to do.

In America there is a problem with Progressive Liberals, who are trying to mandate what people do, say, think etc, etc, I wonder if we have a few on here.

[vblockranger]

Why would you be banned because a moderator on WATRB does not like your opinions, as brighton (best of a bad bunch) said, "we should all remember that it isn't a contest to prove our opinions are right and other people's are wrong", they should just have to move on to the next thread like they are telling you to do.

In America there is a problem with Progressive Liberals, who are trying to mandate what people do, say, think etc, etc, I wonder if we have a few on here.

i think we do have a few your right. Obviously not naming any names but being a QPR fan obviously doesnt preclude you from a being a pretentious/pompous arrogant snob and unfortunately i just find it hard to ignore them and i like to wind them up sometimes for a reaction . I think best thing for me would be to put them on ignore and ...can you ignore pretentious/pompous mods tho?