factos after 'roast(ing)' thoughts!!

[Factamondo]

despite our recent good home form and the memorable wins in all honetsy we 'are not good enough' at this level.....away from home most of the season we have been woeful and that is down to poor management/tactics and ability.....do we really wanna stay up and become annual relegation battlers and in the meantime pay over hyped and overpaid premadonnas obscene salaries they are not worthy of when most fans struggle toaffrord match day tickets...reguardless of our owners personal wealth we are not a 'wealthy club' and if a giant like glasgow rangers can go skint we certainly can longterm....i would like to see us challenge for an immediate return next season but with a squad of players who recognise their opportunity and grasp it with appreciation of their status....im sorry but the likes of kenny/hill/derry/buzz/bothroyd/ are clearly found wanting at this level as has been shown week in week out on our travels....i would dearly love us to survive but if we do the likes of swp who clearly disrespected us all with his 'laughing' today must never pull on the shirt we love again!

[SANDERSON8]

[Westway]

I'm not sure SWP disrespected us today when he came on. I think he turned to the fourth official and said something like "not much I can do, we're five goals down!". A bit of gallows humour.

[vanhoop]

Thought the only one that showed any kind of heart today was derry.this result today will pump the lads up for stoke if not whatever the season were follow our team

[lymehoop]

good post facto, most disappointing thing is paying top dollar watching players who don't give a sh*t

[Factamondo]

may well be the case but i still think he has showed little appetite since he arrived!

[West Acton]

Hopefully the myth of Buzz has been put too bed once and for all today he is pants

[Factamondo]

Thought the only one that showed any kind of heart today was derry.this result today will pump the lads up for stoke if not whatever the season were follow our team

agreed vans we will be here long long after this squad of playrers but as much as i admire derry he is woefully short at this level on week in week out basis and must go in the summer even if we go down!

[Westway]

may well be the case but i still think he has showed little appetite since he arrived!

I agree. He's been absolutely woeful for us.

[W12_Ranger]

despite our recent good home form and the memorable wins in all honetsy we 'are not good enough' at this level.....away from home most of the season we have been woeful and that is down to poor management/tactics and ability.....do we really wanna stay up and become annual relegation battlers and in the meantime pay over hyped and overpaid premadonnas obscene salaries they are not worthy of when most fans struggle toaffrord match day tickets...reguardless of our owners personal wealth we are not a 'wealthy club' and if a giant like glasgow rangers can go skint we certainly can longterm....i would like to see us challenge for an immediate return next season but with a squad of players who recognise their opportunity and grasp it with appreciation of their status....im sorry but the likes of kenny/hill/derry/buzz/bothroyd/ are clearly found wanting at this level as has been shown week in week out on our travels....i would dearly love us to survive but if we do the likes of swp who clearly disrespected us all with his 'laughing' today must never pull on the shirt we love again!

I thought you were sitting in the Matthew Harding stand with 30 other rangers today after a quiet pint in the Ifield?

[QPR_NW10]

i don't think our players "don't give a sht"...i think they do. just chelsea are a better team.
they don't have better fans though.

[Factamondo]

Hopefully the myth of Buzz has been put too bed once and for all today he is pants

wasnt his best performance and another who im affraid is not premier quality on a regular basis which is required at this level!

[Factamondo]

I thought you were sitting in the Matthew Harding stand with 30 other rangers today after a quiet pint in the Ifield?

no after a not too quite' pints last night i woke up at noon with a gargoyle head on............facto jnr went instead.......just phoned to say he wish he hadnt!

[West Acton]

wasnt his best performance and another who im affraid is not premier quality on a regular basis which is required at this level!

In the conditions in the first half you had to make sure of every pass better to put too much on it then not enough. Every one of his passes was short. Can’t tackle, no pace, no bottle I have never seen what the hype is. Unless we have a free kick around the box or corner he is and always will be a passenger

[ILTA]

I think the players from our championship team who have played have done very well. Hill, Derry, Helguson, Mackie, Taarabt of late have all been good. Buszaky and Paddy not so good. Some of the new players have not cut it like Boyhroyd, Barton, SWP and Cisse.
There are two key injuries that has cost us most it is Young and Helguson, both fighters and if they could have played I believe we would be save by now.
I still think we will escape. If they can not be motivated after this against Stoke there is something very wrong. And I think our biggest surprise will come last match.