The fat lady HAS sung but...

[QPRDave]

Have a drink Bruce!

[Del]

The intelligent posters know we are down (although obviously not yet mathematically). Blind optimists are not very bright! The fat lady sung when the final whistle went against Everton. But now the team is just starting to gel, we can show this league what WOULD have happened had this squad started the season, and not finished it. We can still finish 18th and show the big boys that we can pick up points against them, starting with tonight. This squad would have finished mid-table, no doubt (even with Hughes-a panic appointment if ever there was one-in charge).

Nice contradiction.

You say we are down, and then state we'll show the league what we would have done by picking up points against the big boys, starting tonight! Surely by that logic, we'd also pick up points in the games against weaker teams we have left, and if so quite possibly get enough to survive.

If that's the case, why exactly is it so certain in your mind we will not stay up? Are you really so confident Bolton, Wigan and Wolves will do better than that glowing finale you've predicted for us... i can't see it myself.

But hey, i will remain positive while we are in a winnable battle with those poor sides. If another pulls away i will become less optimistic, but we are level on points with them so it's hardly decided yet. Yes we've been rubbish at collecting points, but you give them too much credit to suggest its obvious they'll outdo us in the run in, regardles of fixtures.

[vblockranger]

still think 17th is possible and would have taken that at start of season.

[Spencer]

Looking at our run in and if someone handed me £10K to place a bet, I would bet on us getting relegated.

Wolves and Wigan look shocking and far worse than us.
Blackburns back to back wins have given them momentum and at this time of the season, is much needed.

With the recent events concerning Bolton, their season could go either way.

Looking at the bottom 5 - till last night, we had the best goal difference by far.
We have also not really(apart from Bolton and Fulham) been spanked by other teams.

As I see it, we will either go out with a damp fizzle, maybe getting draw tonight maybe at weekend and maybe an odd victory....or maybe the team we have, which looks good on paper, will gel and blitz liverpool...****** up Oniel and get a result against the Gooners.

I think most people/fans willl go with option one and that is where my head is...However, until it is impossible for us to stay up, my heart will always assume that option two will happen.

Looking forward to tonights game...although, i need to get out on time to catch last train home to Folkestone at 11:12,

[RussRanger]

Not sure if this is optimistic but where once we wanted to be top of a group of 5, we now only have to be top of a group of 4. Our chances have just increased by 5%.

[CroydonCaptainJack]

She's not singing yet but she's tapping the microphone and warming up her voice for about 9.50 tonight?

We will be one point behind Bolton tonight whatever happens. Hardly relegated is it

[brightonr]

Not sure if this is optimistic but where once we wanted to be top of a group of 5, we now only have to be top of a group of 4. Our chances have just increased by 5%.

Very true.

But previously, finishing 2nd wouldn't have been a disaster.

[CroydonCaptainJack]

The intelligent posters know we are down (although obviously not yet mathematically). Blind optimists are not very bright! The fat lady sung when the final whistle went against Everton. But now the team is just starting to gel, we can show this league what WOULD have happened had this squad started the season, and not finished it. We can still finish 18th and show the big boys that we can pick up points against them, starting with tonight. This squad would have finished mid-table, no doubt (even with Hughes-a panic appointment if ever there was one-in charge).

Are there no intelligent optimists then?
Ironically I think that is often the mentailty amongst the pessimists on here. They seem to think they are more intelligent. Strange really.

[vblockranger]

Are there no intelligent optimists then?
Ironically I think that is often the mentailty amongst the pessimists on here. They seem to think they are more intelligent. Strange really.

i think staying up is still a possibility but you seem quite optimistic mate. Where do you get this optimism? are you just generally an optimistic person? not having a pop, just asking

[CroydonCaptainJack]

i think staying up is still a possibility but you seem quite optimistic mate. Where do you get this optimism? are you just generally an optimistic person? not having a pop, just asking

Yes, I am an optimist generally. I have always felt we had just enough until we lost to Fulham. That was the first time I thought we would go down. Then when we played ok against Everton I renewed my optimism and felt sure we would beat Bolton or at least not lose the game. I think we have had the 'self destruct' phase and are now into the 'nothing is going our way' phase and I think the run in might just be to hard for us. Blackburn beating Wolves and then another clean sheet for them last night will give them confidence. It is difficult to know how Bolton will do now and I thought we were the better side against them. However, knowing out luck they will be galvinized now. I see us improving but ultimatley being heroic losers sadly.

[TRING-RANGER]

It aint over til it's over. We can do this. Stop being a bunch of drama queens.

well said that man

[jmelanie]

Heroic is good because so far we have not been heroic anything.

[willis1980]

I dont quite understand how people assume that just because Rovers won last night that theyre safe from drop, as a team they do look the best unit out of the 5 fighting the drop however theyre still far from safe.

[jmelanie]

Basically because so far we've only managed to get 5 points all year.

[essex]

But if we win tonight we are 2 points clear of releagation?