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Another 3 Goals Scored..Where Does A striker Fit IN Exactly??

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  • #46
    I'm saying some are jumping at wanting one NOW, don't think the way we are scoring goals its an urgent requirement and players we have deserve to be given a chance.
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    • #47
      It's called being pre-emptive Pete though its hardly that as we had to sit through the whole of last season without a decent striker! Just because we scored 3 against Soton in a friendly doesnt mean that we dont need a striker. Magilton obviously wantss one if he can otherwise we wouldnt have bid for Lita and Cox and so doeos every other fan apart from you it seems!

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      • #48
        Cox was also offered a deal at Rangers, but its hard to compete with wages on clubs like WBA and Boro "

        I think it depends on the expectations of the board. Pete I hear what you say about progression. but what is the target for our club this season, is it progression or promotion?

        If its progression then I would be keen to give Ballanta as much playing time as possible to allow him to develop as a forward but if the ai, is promotion then we should be doing whatever we can to land the striker that would give us the goals from day one.

        and I know we have a bunch of strikers but we have sold the only really decent one, we cant shift big pat on because the deal he is on wont be matched by any other clubs interested in him and its probably the same with helguson.
        its New Era number 8 i tell thee, bring on the fireworks

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        • #49
          Correct me if I'm wrong but didn't we score 4 against Southampton last season when they had the likes of Surman and McGoldrick at the club? Since then we've "improved" our team while theirs has got worse and we scored less goals against them.

          As for the Birmingham argument how many goals did there midfield score last season? Phillips scored 14, Jerome 9, O'Connor 6, McFadden 4 and Bent 3. Ridgewell, Taylor and Queudrue scored 5 between them while the midfield only scored 11.

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          • #50
            Fact is it very clear we are lacking a striker and if anything 3 goals going in and not a single striker on the scoresheet actually points this out.

            We've basically lost 15 odd goals from Blackstock yet none of the strikers seem to be stepping up to fill his boots in pre-season. Fair play to the board for making moves to sign player like Cox and Lita, atleast we are trying and hopefully the lack of goals from the strikers is clear to JM and the board. There's still time to sign players but part of me thinks this should have been sorted back in June.
            Last edited by Captain Planet; 02-08-2009, 12:43 PM.

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            • #51
              we have sold our top scorer. who has not been replaced.

              we lacked goals last season and we will lack goals this season.

              the squad has taken a step back.

              now pete keeps saying taarabt will score 15 and he will play up front. what happens if he breaks his leg in the first game. most other teams have good cover if this happens. what do we have? nothing

              the striking options are not good enough to mount a serious challeng this season

              but it's ok because we can "wait until january" :tired:

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              • #52
                i can see a lot of draws at home this season, pull your finger out gianni lol. loan deal for a top youngster from a big club or a proven goalscorer in england, either one. buying someone wont happen tho i mean if we cant offer big money for a proven goalscorer who didnt even require a transfer fee, then theres nothin to spend. lets hope we can get a youngster on loan then....

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by qblockpete View Post
                  I'm saying some are jumping at wanting one NOW, don't think the way we are scoring goals its an urgent requirement and players we have deserve to be given a chance.
                  your obviously not talking about the forwards or is last season a distant memory

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by qblockpete View Post
                    peteg, All teams want another striker.

                    Trouble is we have 6 already. Okay, if we said lets sell Helguson or Ageymang then maybe argument is valid.

                    How many clubs in the championship have bought strikers this summer, more importantly how many would walk straight into our first 11?

                    Faurlin and Buzsacky (lets hope he stays fit) can turn games and they play midfield.

                    The opinion on our strikers is being based on last season and makes no allowance for change of tactics or progression with certain players. Peteg, I understand where you are coming from, as those that I spoke to yesterday before the game agreed with your opinion.

                    Pete, that's utter crap too. Just cos we have 6 strikers, does NOT mean we don't need another...why??? Because out of all of them, none will surpass 10 goals if played consistantly. Now...work it out a bit better mate...only 3 of them can possibly play consistantly so the other 3 are invalid to this arguement. We sold our best goal scorer by z country mile and have done NOTHING to replace him. And don't give it the Billy Big Balls to me about basing on last season due to your superior attendance over pre season as you don't need to watch games to know what we're missing as it's obvious. Even Stevie Wonder could tell you what we lack.

                    We need a striker so stop being ignorant and admit it mate.
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                    • #55
                      Where does a striker fit in ? up front is the short answer.
                      We possibly have the worst strikers in the league, you cannot rely on the midfield to get enough goals to win us promotion.
                      Last edited by rangersroar; 02-08-2009, 03:06 PM.

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                      • #56
                        Sounds like Pete is sticking up for his mate which is fair enough, and the risk is there of unsettling the dressing room if we pay a good striker top dollar, but unfortunately our rivals ARE paying higher wages it seems, so in order to be competitive we need to take that risk. Cox to WBA (rival for promotion), Lita to Boro (rival for promotion) just makes that even more obvious, and our task that much harder. Our sponsors will presumably be getting nervous if we don't do something special this year (but we do need some luck with injuries which we lacked last year).

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                        • #57
                          balanta isnt going up front and taarabt is not a striker regardless of whether he wants to play there. our strikers are PA, HH, RV and AP. they are our 4 front men and the simple truth of the matter is they are not good enough. PA is a league 1 striker. HH dont give 2 ****s and thats not gonna change, u can tell by his attitude, plus the fact he cant finish neway. RV looks to have lost something with injury but id still be willing to give him a chance cos i was a big fan of his. and AP looks to be an ok player. so the way i see it, we got 2 strikers and i dont think either are right to start on saturday. just my opinion

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                          • #58
                            can't argue with any of the above, it looks like the majority are saying "give us a bloody decent striker" :confused::confused::confused:

                            as for not upsetting the players with a big name charlie on ridiclus money, remind me who gave 1size a 4 1/2 year contract at 15k a week or more

                            that works out to at least £3.5M over his contract, now tell me that's money well spent :cry:

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                            • #59
                              we've lost our top scorer added an Italian unknown so don't know how you can say we have goals in us especially when we only scored 42 league goals last season and Dex got 11 of them. On the teams we have played in pre-season who were not exactly big tests you can not judge anything only that fans did not want to watch such oppostion play. As for Agy last seasons poor return of 2 goals in 20 apps will be no help whatsoever but his goal ratio is useless anyway so what should we expect
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                              • #60
                                We score a couple of goal pre season and all of a sudden we arent in need of a striker?

                                Does anybody remember a couple of seasons ago, when we thought we had found our solution to our striker problem, when a certain BEN SAHAR bagged a brace against top flight Fulham? Look how that turned out.

                                Pre season games mean **** all, as you'd be the first to point out Pete if we'd lost every single game.

                                The fact is, based on what we have ALL seen in competitive games, with the strikers we have at our disposal, NONE of them cut the mustard. Even Vine, who im sure we all agree, is the pick of the bunch, is more of a creator than a goalscorer.

                                The problem we face at the moment is we have plenty of creators in Buz, Rowly, Faulin, Routledge, Vine and Cook, but nobody up front who is actually capable of tucking away the chances made for them. Helguson is a prime example of a player who had plenty of oppertunities to score from chances made for him last season and didnt do so, and looks to continue in that vain of form. The one player i would have argued is capable of scoring given the chance is Agyemang, but judging from his form last season when he did play, and based on other opinions of him pre season, he doesnt seem capable or interested.

                                Pellicori is the unknown quantity in all of this and could very well be the man to fire us up the league. You cant however blame everybody for not being convinced, and thus, wanting a striker we've bloody heard of, as nobody knows what the hell he is capable of. I for one cant get excited about a player i know nothing of, and im sure many others feel the same, hence why there is still talk o another striker being needed.

                                It seems to me that the same people who claim we DONT need a striker, are all relying on "If's and buts, maybe's and hopefully's" regarding our front line this season.

                                Hopefully this is Balanta's breakout season..
                                Maybe Tarrabt will shine as a striker..
                                But what if Helguson can recapture his old form..

                                And so on so fourth.

                                The fact is we dont have anybody on our books who is capable and has a proven track record of scoring goals consistantly at this level. So please, excuse myself and others for thinking it would be nice to bring in somebody who does...
                                Last edited by Half Empty; 02-08-2009, 04:23 PM.
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