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    I agree with Wrighty. I can't see us picking up any more points this season, with the final run in we've got. All the top teams, and then the 'easier' teams like Swansea, who I've watched a couple of times this season, and they are class. So what went wrong, because something went fundamentally wrong. We cruised through the Championship last season, winning it easily, with a massive positive goal difference. There's no point in looking to bad luck, or referee decisions. They usually even themselves out over a season. No, we were the creation of our own downfall. Here's my assessment.

    1 Our past owners were looking to sell us, just as we needed stability and future planning

    2 We bought hastily and recklessly at the start of the season, bringing in a group of expensive and under performing rejects, plus Dyer, an injury waiting to happen (8 minutes in fact).

    3 Too many of last season's squad were not able to raise their game to Premier levels

    4 We appointed someone as captain, Barton, who has zero leadership skills. In fact his influence is corrosive and divisive.

    5 We lost Faulin, our best player to injury.

    6 We changed manager half way through, bringing further disruption to an already disrupted squad, when the problem was Barton, not Warnock

    7 There was a second group purchase of unknown and untested players.

    8 The team has been endlessly tinkered with, with the result that no one knows his pace, what he is doing, or whether he is in or out of the team.

    9 This has all meant that we have diminished in confidence, rather than grown.

    10 The players, barring a couple, have never bonded with the crowd, despite that win against Chelsea, and the crowd have, as a result never given their 100%.

    11 The new manager, cold and impassive, has never bonded with the players or the supporters, and seems distant and unconnected.

    12 The new owner, for all his money and enthusiasm, has no experience of running a football club, has made his decisions, and they have all been wrong. He's learning the hard way.

    13 Our second best player after Faurlin, Taraabt, has been in and out of the team like a yo-yo, and doesn't know whether he's coming or going.

    14 Our third best player, Helguson, part of the old guard, who helped get us here in the first place, is curiously out of favour, and has hardly featured since Hughes arrived. He's our only premier-proven scorer!

    I could go on, can anyone else add to the list?

  • #2
    Your number 4 is IMO the main reason, the team spirit seems FcKed and I'm blaming the gobshite!

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    • #3
      14 is wrong , been injured sadly again.

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      • #4
        So Cisse is not a proven goal scorer? He has got two which is good considering he has jumped in to a team, didn't have enough time to settle in, and with his suspension , well that didn't help either!

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        • #5
          Originally posted by 2bobrob View Post
          14 is wrong , been injured sadly again.

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          • #6
            overall a good synopsis, but just like when a customer can be bothered to write in and complain, every last detail starts to come out of the woodwork when the chips are down and we are staring the jaws of the relegation trapdoor in the face.

            i agree hughes has been cold and impassive, at a time when as fans we would have welcomed some passion and fire. however, warnock had plenty of that, and failed to instill that into the players this season.

            all the ingredients conspire to make this a pretty glum season all in all, with only a couple of faint hopes remaining - a) that some miracle happens and we beat the drop, or b) that the key players remain so that we can bounce right back up again. one thing is for sure, i expect cisse to bang more goals in and that will be something, anyway.

            either way enjoy the premiership while it lasts - end of season time will be tough.
            come on you r's!

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            • #7
              i think point number one really is were it went wrong. we were always playing catch up when the new owners came in. oh well this is qpr when has it ever been perfect. look at last season we won the championship, still manage to make that complacated

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              • #8
                We had identical thread a couple of days ago. All the answers are there. Strangely the thread was called "where did it all go wrong"

                My answers haven't changed:

                1. Making Joey Captain
                2. Not using Tarbs enough
                3. Losing Faurlin - this is the biggest blow and leaves us few options
                4. Not getting cover for Faurlin
                5. Decline in performance of defence and I don't understand why
                6. No supply for the strikers due to lack of creativity

                What I noticed on Sat was that no one wanted the ball and they didn't make themselves available in the middle, so whoever had possession had very little in terms of options. This led to too much hoofing.
                Last edited by silvercue; 15-03-2012, 11:31 AM.
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                • #9
                  Tango and Cash are still the main reason we are where we are in my opinion. They are the reason Warno had to scrimp and scrape pre season and then panic buy at the end of the August transfer window.
                  It has to be said the 3 'big' buys in August Barton, SWP and Ferdinand have not proved value for money at all. And now we are fc uked because they are all on long contracts and no other club would want them.

                  Who would want a big mouthed controversy hunting footballer who slaggs of his team mates yet is putting in 5 out of 10 performances EVERY week?

                  Who would want an ex England international winger who cant cross the ball and looks as though whenever he gets in front of goal has a black out?

                  Who would want a centre half who has 1 good game out of 5, has limited pace and doesnt fancy it half of the time?

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                  • #10
                    We can't even blame the fixture list. I reckon we were given a favourable schedule save for a dodgy run in. We have had many breaks and runs against the poorer teams that we simply didn't take advantage off. Other teams haveEurope, cups etc we've generally had f+++ all to concentrate on save the league and we still balls it up
                    Last edited by TBLOCKRANGER; 15-03-2012, 12:16 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by silvercue View Post
                      We had identical thread a couple of days ago. All the answers are there. Strangely the thread was called "where did it all go wrong"

                      My answers haven't changed:

                      1. Making Joey Captain
                      2. Not using Tarbs enough
                      3. Losing Faurlin - this is the biggest blow and leaves us few options
                      4. Not getting cover for Faurlin
                      5. Decline in performance of defence and I don't understand why
                      6. No supply for the strikers due to lack of creativity

                      What I noticed on Sat was that no one wanted the ball and they didn't make themselves available in the middle, so whoever had possession had very little in terms of options. This led to too much hoofing.

                      This is my take at it.

                      1)When Faurlin got injured we lost a player who was good at tracking back and mark his man at set pieces. He was an organizer in these situations as well. IMO his absence has cost us big time in defence as well.

                      2) Trore went to the African cup of nations and Taiwo was introduced to english fotball way to early and made the Boss in defence Anton panic. Anton Ferdinand is a confidence player who first suffered a dip in form due to the Terry incident also.Hence With a clueless Fullback to cover for it made him even more insecure himself.
                      2)Onuorha who was also bought in, is an OK player but obviously ATM not of Alex(the ex. Chelsea defender) Class. He is improving and is currently doing OK at the right back.

                      3) Paddy Kenny´s confidence wnet to pieces bit by bit as the goals passed him by on a regular basis. I know that he now is injured but I didn´t know that when Warnock went. Could it be that his dip in form(slightly, but as I see it, recognizable) occured as a result of the sacking of his boss? I think so.

                      4) When Scott young did his hamstring or whatever we lost a decent defender but most of all a good full when going forward.


                      At the start of Hughes´s reign I would have played the following defenders.


                      Cerny

                      Onuaha Anton Hill Gabbidon


                      A bit mix and match from me but this is the result of our shopping during the January sale.
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