Euston Station altercation - what really happened? /merged/

[HammersmithR]

Amazed that of all players to pick on, Mackie who plays his are out very week and Cisse who has scored or 2, set up 1 out of three starts. Wow

No one picked on Cisse as he was heading to the coach. He chose to get involved to back his colleague up. But the way he acted was unnecessary.

[scuberry]

Seems like we were'nt the only ones :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/17325008

[bushcelt1]

lot a finger jabbing in the chest?

in truth a lot of ours would melt in front of a "bigger name". laughable. number one for proper donuts.

[SuperHoopNik]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2113213/QPR-boss-Mark-Hughes-players-clash-fans-Euston.html

[Kit]

Any fan who did this is not a supporter of the club in my mind, just ****s looking for trouble at any opportunity, **** me I have supported Rangers for 40 years now and seen ups and down but some fans are embarrassing, absolutely pathetic behaviour from basically louts !

[Norths]

anyone got a vid of this?

[PeterG]

"Mackie will always divide opinion with fans. Some fans like him because he always tries and chips in with the odd goal whilst people like myself think he is not good enough for this league or team. The table as I said does not lie."

I have never seen Mackie put in anything less than 100%, the fact that he might not be absolutely top class is not his fault, neither is it his fault if he gets picked to play and he certainly isnt pulling in big money and taking the ****.

For these reasons I dont beleive it is fair to single him out. if somebody feels Makie is not good enough to be playing for QPR have a word with the bloke who picks the team not the player himself who is just doing his job as well as he can.

[stan_bowles]

"Mackie will always divide opinion with fans. Some fans like him because he always tries and chips in with the odd goal whilst people like myself think he is not good enough for this league or team. The table as I said does not lie."

I have never seen Mackie put in anything less than 100%, the fact that he might not be absolutely top class is not his fault, neither is it his fault if he gets picked to play and he certainly isnt pulling in big money and taking the ****.

For these reasons I dont beleive it is fair to single him out. if somebody feels Makie is not good enough to be playing for QPR have a word with the bloke who picks the team not the player himself who is just doing his job as well as he can.

Having a go at Mackie and Hill is ridiculous.Two player's who give 100% every time they play.

Now SWP and Barton is a different matter.

[qprjames]

Having a go at Mackie and Hill is ridiculous.Two player's who give 100% every time they play.

Now SWP and Barton is a different matter.

Nobody had a 'go' at hill from what I saw.

[themodfather]

ok, i was on the train, and word went round the team were on it too, we saw buzza alone at manchester piccadilly before getting our train.
as we went down the plat, some running and songs started, "what a load of rubbish" etc...some r's fans were having words with each other and then there was "excitement" by the coach....hill was talking to fans, signing autographs and i shook his hand,saying "you should be capt....motm" i also shook hands with mackie and said something like "many qpr fans like you cos you try", then i shook hands with hughes, said the ref done us today and we're all choked,upset...players may have got jostled,shouted at but i never saw all that went on, as involved in talking to other qpr fans too....

qprfc is part of "us" too, we feel for our club, it's an emotional game, add beers, 5hit refs and no wins = unhappy fluffy bunnies.
qpr could hold an open day with us, NOW...a sort of clear the air and move on, ready to build on next season. after yesterday i can see no hope of staying up, we can't keep playing 12 men! our luck is out and it's about restoring some pride and having the mental strength to bounce back, like wba do often.

[BUSHRANGER1982]

Before anything gets twisted or sensationalised on message boards, Twitter or the media etc. Many Rangers were on the train coming back from Manchester after the game. When everyone got off at Euston it quickly became apparent the players were indeed on the same train. They had travelled back First Class in their own carriage with security guards not allowing anyone near them.

As many Rangers fans got off the train and I'll be the first to hold my hand up and say I didn't cover myself in too much glory songs were sung such as comments about the players wages and not doing their best for the shirt. Obviously many of the players turned around to see what was going on as they were making their way to a coach which was waiting for them right by the platform. Players like Mackie heard what was being sung as they were right by the fans. No one was digging people like Cisse or Hill out. I certainly haven't been happy with Mackie's performances this season. Some fans like him because he always tries his best, whilst my opinion is he is someone who is not good enough for where the club are at at the moment. The table does not lie. Mackie got a bit of stick for a few seconds. But he got on the bus. Cisse only got involved because he was backing his team mate up, but he got on the bus virtually straight away after. Fans were certainly not drunk and it was all over fairly quickly as fans went home and the players got back on the coach. As for the Stoke team. Jonathan Walters was on the other platform and he came over to say hello to Clint Hill. They must know each other from somewhere.

Fans frustration and I certainly include myself in that was not just about today's performance. All those on the train today like myself go week in and week out to follow the club that we want to do the best they can. For me I am sick and tired of turning the computer on every Friday to hear another Rangers player say how they're going to perform the following day. For me I wish they kept their mouths shut and got on with a performance their fans would be proud of. Frustration for me and others at Euston today were not at people like Hill who has been first class in the last few games. It is at people like Barton and SWP who through no fault of their own are on silly money and are simply not delivering. Some on here will argue you should 'support' the team and by God we do. The fact that most Rangers fans would have had to be up at 5/6am this morning to go up there and sadly see a performance from certain players which was not good enough for the name of QPR. I support and follow my club like all of you. I don't accept certain players not giving their all for the club. We all want to stay up, but I am sorry the fact that Barton tweeted tonight, 'ah well, f**k it' just shows the contempt he has for the fans who have spent a lot of money today.

A captain for me leads by example and drives the team on. Barton has not done that this season and his performance again today was abysmal. Some of the players we have give the attitude that they couldn't give a to55 about the shirt. We have had a dozen games against 'weak' opposition to put in some performances to get 3 points and we have done that once. How some people think we are certainly going to drastically change that for the remainder of the season is beyond me. I am a realist. I love my club like all of you and IF we go down next season, then yes I'll be there at Barnsley on a Tuesday night in January following my club. You can guarantee that people like SWP and Barton won't be up for it. I certainly know in my job that if I was not performing I would be getting grief from my boss. Imagine if these players were in a country like Spain, Italy or Turkey..........then they would hear about fan's frustration of their performances! If you are going to be in the 'best' league in the world and earn top dollar then I am sorry you have to accept that if you're not putting in the graft then the ordinary fans who spend thousands following the club making sacrifice after sacrifice are not going to be happy. If they can't handle the stick that comes with poor performances then they are in the wrong profession.

COYRs!:yush:

Farking cracking post, and one that quite clearly came straight from the heart.

[BUSHRANGER1982]

Appreciate the honesty and in some ways we will see the character of the players after this>

I just worry what kind of message it sends to the board and whether they think its all worth it>

After all they have invested time and more importantly money into this venture and some act as if we have devine right to be in the premiership, when in reality we don't. We are a much smaller club than many in the championship and yet we seem to be taking this all for granted.

What are you on about?
Divine right?
Nobody I know thinks that at all.
What they, and I, do think though, is that some of our players need to pull their farking fingers out, and that needs saying sometimes, whether they like to hear it, or not.

[loneranger]

St Pancras 1987 now that was passion....

ha ha very true.

[QPRWEBBIE]

The reason people (wrongly)took it out on Mackie and Hill was only because they were outside the coach,Barton was cowering at the back of the coach and SWP was hiding in the kit bag.The same bloke who was giving it large spent the next 10 mins trying to pick fights with rangers fans after the coach left.These away trips are getting more fired up after each game and its not gonna be long before somebody gets seriously hurt as the anger is getting out of control

[HammersmithR]

No one had a go at Hill! Mackie took some stick, but he should have just got on the coach. All Rangers fans have respect for Hill. The stick was mainly for players like Barton and SWP who have under performed this season. Barton talks the talk, but cannot walk the walk!

Rangers fans just want to see their players giving 100% every game. Sadly too many of those players have let us and the club down. That's why some of them got stick. It had built up over a number of games.