QPR... will we ever be happy?

[QPRDave]

Are we the most difficult to please fans? Do we expect far too much for who we are?
QPR have always, as has been said on here, booed one of our own since i can remember.When i first supported the Rs in the mid 70s Don Givens used to be the player "we loved to hate" as i remember a newspaper put it at the time.
We are not a huge club, yet we demand a certain "product", ie, beautiful football, but we had better win as well.We have always loved a character, a player with that something extra, and for years our no 10 shirt had to be worn by this type of player if posssible.
But all in all when you look at it we have never been massively successful.
I have a theory that a reason for fans being so harsh on players especially this season is because we have bought what are looked upon as recognised top prem players and have spent a alot of money getting them, and so we want "the product".
Does anyone think that maybe we are not suited to having ready made star players? We have never spent like this before,.. at QPR we always made them stars, and then ultimately sold them on.Are there clubs like us that maybe will never be a huge club, Pompey tried and well looked what happened, Wigan? Blackburn?.... don't know.. maybe we need to be happy with the progress we have made, and not expect us to compete with the really big boys.

[zuluop]

Well we don't want relegation.....as long as we do not relegate I do not care how many we win or loose.
QPR has always been about short passing football not good old kick and rush.....that is what I have always loved about QPR. So yes I expect short passing football.
On top of that I think you are right - we have invested in good players - now we want to see at least some kind of improvement. Is that too much to ask?

[ollyhoops]

I think we probably do expect too much too soon, but ultimately we just want to stay in the Premiership. When you take Swansea, who have a low key manager and players that you could not name they are doing far better than us and have Premiership football next season. Same goes for Norwich who spent far less than us but have a much better squad.

I think its more the disappointment of the players not really trying or giving us anything to be happy about. We are already in middle of February and we've virtually accepted relegation, the squad could had at least tried!

When you think of the managers we've had in 3 years and the players we've bought its a bad joke.

[iheartwegerle]

We are hard to please, but I think that's fair enough. We've put up with years of sh!t and now we've hit the big time we don't want to see it fritter away.

I think the award for hardest fans to please must go to Villa. They are always moaning. Mind you they could be happy with that accent and it would still sound like moaning.

[80sCasual]

I think we probably do expect too much too soon, but ultimately we just want to stay in the Premiership. When you take Swansea, who have a low key manager and players that you could not name they are doing far better than us and have Premiership football next season. Same goes for Norwich who spent far less than us but have a much better squad.

I think its more the disappointment of the players not really trying or giving us anything to be happy about. We are already in middle of February and we've virtually accepted relegation, the squad could had at least tried!

When you think of the managers we've had in 3 years and the players we've bought its a bad joke.

You've just reminded me of the bet i made with someone pre season for £500 that we would finish above swansea. Cheers.

[Mr M]

QPR... will we ever be happy?...................................No

[cross it Dave]

Dave, don't remember Givens being the boo boy, he scored bags of goals for us, maybe towards the end of his time here his scoring dropped off, but I think he got 25 plus in his first season, and he only cost £40 grand from Luton.

We, the supporters and the board of directors have invested much time and money in the club, especially this season money wise, the players hopefully will respect this and perform to the expected ability and drag us to safety.

It wouldn't be surprise to us all if our players read this message board, so it won't come as a surprise to them that we expect a lot more from our investment, am I wasting my breath, I sincerely hope not.

[LOOPYHOOP]

Bottom line.....we have a lot of negative numptys supporting our club,sad but true.I work with a couple.If you told them we're signing Messi and Ronaldo and Bhatia was going to pump £200,000000 on transfers and not want a dime back,they'd still be downbeat and negative.It sickens me to my core with some of our so called 'supporters' they have absolute no understanding of what this word means.All they do is project negativity onto this club we love but they can't see that,and it gives the media and other outlets a field day.It's a pure backwards mentality,that will get you nowhere and all it causes is diversion and misery.......mabye one day these 'fans' will work it out.............

[QPRDave]

Good comments and valid too thanks for that.
The comments on Swans and Norwich that's how we used to be
getting players like Peacock, Brevitt,Sinton,Sinclair,Holloway, and of course Ferdinand
and making them stars,we used to be everyone's favourite 2nd team and played and beat alot of them.
I'm not saying the ownership is a bad thing... far from it, i just think we need to adjust
to it,we do some of the most loyal fans in the country, that have seen QPR on the brink of greatness and oblivion.There really is something special about our club, let's try and enjoy it more.

[Connell10]

im not that happy i spent a load of money on a season ticket and have only seen us win 2 league games all season!!!

[QPRDave]

im not that happy i spent a load of money on a season ticket and have only seen us win 2 league games all season!!!

No not good mate, but that's the trouble with football we're not guarateed the "show" we want
Hoping this little working trip, MH and his team can iron out the mistakes, and
we survive this season.The fact we could attract Hughes must give us hope that the plans in place on survival, are fantastic.
We can do this !!

[DouDou_87]

Bottom line.....we have a lot of negative numptys supporting our club,sad but true.I work with a couple.If you told them we're signing Messi and Ronaldo and Bhatia was going to pump £200,000000 on transfers and not want a dime back,they'd still be downbeat and negative.It sickens me to my core with some of our so called 'supporters' they have absolute no understanding of what this word means.All they do is project negativity onto this club we love but they can't see that,and it gives the media and other outlets a field day.It's a pure backwards mentality,that will get you nowhere and all it causes is diversion and misery.......mabye one day these 'fans' will work it out.............

Nail on the head.

[Shrine]

a few months ago i was complaining "yes we won, but we were lucky" etc..
an example was aginst chelsea 9 men.

Anyway, i take it all back, i'll happily take lucky wins for the rest of the season!

I apologise

[sirduncs]

it's a toughie. when heads drop and we get frustrated, we tend to get on the players' backs which i guess is human nature but ultimately is just going to contribute to players having low confidence. our problem as fans is that we tend to do it regularly enough this season that it hasn't helped the team at all.

i think back to blackburn away - ok so the first half was completely dire, but i remember at half time as the whistle blew, a few of the R's fans were really getting negative and shouting loudly and offensively at the players (especially SWP) and i thought 'how the shite is -that- gonna help?'.

i also noticed that a lot in the cup games in particular (vs Rochdale and MK Dons) how we were quick to get on the players' backs, again particularly SWP, wouldn't that negativity be better used trying to positively egg our team on to do well?

i understand we have spent relatively big (by our terms) and that brings expectation from us for the likes of barton, SWP, zamora, cisse etc. and that it is frustrating, but giving the players an audibly hard time when we should be supporting them just makes the whole thing worse methinks.

duncs

[ollyhoops]

Where I live in Amersham there are quite a lot of QPR fans, when I go in the my local Inn we were saying that the only manger that had the passion and was building a good side at the time was Ian Holloway before the Italians got involved.

I would still love Holloway to come back, he was the only true blue and white blooded manager we had in a long time.