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  • #16
    I actually think he has improved with every game. He started very poor, but vs Blackburn, I thought he looked more comfortable on the ball, and was much improved. I think the defence as a whole has been poor - which I am sure will be put right next year - but worried its now too late to stay up

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    • #17
      Originally posted by stanistheman View Post
      He has 2 assists from 3 games already.

      Taiwo was not at fault for any of the Blackburn or Wolves goals. He hasn't cost QPR 6 points from those games.

      You could argue that the following players have all contributed to the losses against Wolves & Blackburn:
      Cisse (red card),
      Barton (giving the ball way for Jarvis' goal)
      Young for being turned inside out for this goal,
      Hall and Ferdinand for crap defending for Yakubu's goal,
      Taraabt shooting when passing would have been a better option for Nzonzi's goal also Hall again for not challenging Hoilett for this goal.

      FFS, give him Taiwo time to adapt.

      We had similar gripes on here about Faurlin 3 seasons ago.
      Gripes about faurlin ! sorry I never read any or heard any ,youre right about he need's time but as I keep saying Hughes should have given him that by arrangeing a couple of reserve games for him and kept him out of his 1st 2 games at least

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      • #18
        Originally posted by loftlag View Post
        Gripes about faurlin ! sorry I never read any or heard any ,youre right about he need's time but as I keep saying Hughes should have given him that by arrangeing a couple of reserve games for him and kept him out of his 1st 2 games at least
        If we had done that and had Hill at LB then the world and his wife would be saying why aren't we playing Taiwo!!

        He hasn't been great, but he'll get better with the more games he plays.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by stanistheman View Post
          He has 2 assists from 3 games already.

          Taiwo was not at fault for any of the Blackburn or Wolves goals. He hasn't cost QPR 6 points from those games.

          You could argue that the following players have all contributed to the losses against Wolves & Blackburn:
          Cisse (red card),
          Barton (giving the ball way for Jarvis' goal)
          Young for being turned inside out for this goal,
          Hall and Ferdinand for crap defending for Yakubu's goal,
          Taraabt shooting when passing would have been a better option for Nzonzi's goal also Hall again for not challenging Hoilett for this goal.

          FFS, give him Taiwo time to adapt.

          We had similar gripes on here about Faurlin 3 seasons ago.
          He was fault for Blackburn second goal, at least. Very odd defending from him in that situation.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Timmy the Doc View Post
            He was fault for Blackburn second goal, at least. Very odd defending from him in that situation.
            No he wasn't. It was Hall, Onuoha and AF that made a hash of it.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by DouDou_87 View Post
              No he wasn't. It was Hall, Onuoha and AF that made a hash of it.
              DouDou, strongly disagree about this. We had Onuoha and Hall taking Hoilett, who had the ball. And Ferdinand took Yakubu in front of the goal. Taiwo run into the situation and we had 4-3. Instead of taking Nzonzi, who was the only unmarked player there, he run past him to partner Ferdinand. Totally wrongly done, as we read from the result.

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Timmy the Doc View Post
                DouDou, strongly disagree about this. We had Onuoha and Hall taking Hoilett, who had the ball. And Ferdinand took Yakubu in front of the goal. Taiwo run into the situation and we had 4-3. Instead of taking Nzonzi, who was the only unmarked player there, he run past him to partner Ferdinand. Totally wrongly done, as we read from the result.
                Onuoha was initially at fault for showing Hoilett inside (something our right backs seems keen on doing). Hall then made a p*** poor attempt at stopping Hoilett squaring it.

                Thats not even mentioning the fact that N'zonzi ran from central midfield and wasn't tracked by anyone??!!

                If we're expecting Taiwo to cover central midfielders as well as his wingers then no wonder we're conceding so many. He wasn't at fault for the goal.

                But each to their own.

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                • #23
                  Bit of a witch hunt here or what... to suggest our left back was at fault for a goal that was created and scored from the opposite flank as a result of opposition players having it far too easy is absurd.

                  But the others in our defence have played in England before, and Taiwo hasn't, therefore they can't be at fault and it must be down to him.... do me a favour.

                  When he messes up then he should be fair game, same as any other player, but to exonorate others clearly more at fault than him for certain goals and then blame him is pathetic.

                  Onuora has played about as many games as Taiwo this season before joining, Hall is regarded as a laughing stock by many on here and Anton has had too many blips recently, and Young before injury has been at fault for many goals. Result is our entire defence is playing badly as a unit and they are all at fault so let's get off Taiwo's back. He will prove to be the best of the lot and if we sign him, possibly our most valuable asset in a couple of years imo. At some point older LB's like Cole and Evra will move on and once he's used to English football i think there could be other clubs sniffing.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by Del View Post
                    Bit of a witch hunt here or what... to suggest our left back was at fault for a goal that was created and scored from the opposite flank as a result of opposition players having it far too easy is absurd.

                    But the others in our defence have played in England before, and Taiwo hasn't, therefore they can't be at fault and it must be down to him.... do me a favour.

                    When he messes up then he should be fair game, same as any other player, but to exonorate others clearly more at fault than him for certain goals and then blame him is pathetic.

                    Onuora has played about as many games as Taiwo this season before joining, Hall is regarded as a laughing stock by many on here and Anton has had too many blips recently, and Young before injury has been at fault for many goals. Result is our entire defence is playing badly as a unit and they are all at fault so let's get off Taiwo's back. He will prove to be the best of the lot and if we sign him, possibly our most valuable asset in a couple of years imo. At some point older LB's like Cole and Evra will move on and once he's used to English football i think there could be other clubs sniffing.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by DouDou_87 View Post
                      Onuoha was initially at fault for showing Hoilett inside (something our right backs seems keen on doing). Hall then made a p*** poor attempt at stopping Hoilett squaring it.

                      Thats not even mentioning the fact that N'zonzi ran from central midfield and wasn't tracked by anyone??!!

                      If we're expecting Taiwo to cover central midfielders as well as his wingers then no wonder we're conceding so many. He wasn't at fault for the goal.

                      But each to their own.
                      Yes, Nzonzi run from midfield, but so did Taiwo behind him and he could have easily taken Nzonzi, but just ran past him. What possibilities had Hoilett, if Taiwo would have taken Nzonzi? But whatever, what has happened has happened and you see it differently than me.

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                      • #26
                        I think what we can both agree is on is that the defence was just absolutely abysmal in the first 45.

                        It was the whole teams fault we were 3-0 down at the break, better hope we sort it out in time for Fulham!

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by DouDou_87 View Post
                          I think what we can both agree is on is that the defence was just absolutely abysmal in the first 45.

                          It was the whole teams fault we were 3-0 down at the break, better hope we sort it out in time for Fulham!
                          Yes, easily lost balls in the attack, 2-3 defenders including Paddy not at their best in both their first two goals.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Timmy the Doc View Post
                            He was fault for Blackburn second goal, at least. Very odd defending from him in that situation.
                            How was he at fault for that goal?

                            Hall was defending (i use the word loosely) against Hoilett and the ball was then cut back to the edge of the box for Nzonzi. Taiwo was not to blame.

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by stanistheman View Post
                              How was he at fault for that goal?

                              Hall was defending (i use the word loosely) against Hoilett and the ball was then cut back to the edge of the box for Nzonzi. Taiwo was not to blame.


                              Of course it was his fault as he plays on the other side of the pitch and was nowehere near it. He gets slated for not running to cover others, and yet if he did and left acres of space on his side which was then exploited, he'd be slated by the same "experts" for leaving acres of space for them to exploit....

                              Perhaps he was also at fault for the countless poor goals we've conceeded before he joined also.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Del View Post


                                Of course it was his fault as he plays on the other side of the pitch and was nowehere near it. He gets slated for not running to cover others, and yet if he did and left acres of space on his side which was then exploited, he'd be slated by the same "experts" for leaving acres of space for them to exploit....

                                Perhaps he was also at fault for the countless poor goals we've conceeded before he joined also.
                                Del & Stan, I already replied why I think he defended poorly. Del, he wasn't on the other side of the pitch, but in the middle of action and chose wrongly. but he was not the only one who could have played that situation better.
                                Last edited by Timmy the Doc; 16-02-2012, 04:45 PM.

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