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Originally posted by keirank View PostOk old chap, I see you are going down the line of ' just because you were born here don't make you English'.
This is an interesting debate and I often find myself asking black or asian people in the street why they are wearing England shirts when they are clearly not English but then I wake up and realise it was a dream and I am not a complete retard after all. Phew.
Surely if this is your argument then all England players of parentage that is not of 100% anglo-saxon lineage shouldn't be allowed to represent England?!
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Originally posted by 1cliveallen View Postwhen was he found guilty?
Surely cannot have him as captain?
I've gone off the idea of England national team - not worth it. Rather they played players from League 1 and 2, at least they'd show some passion. (sure this has been posted on this thread before but there's been some much petty discussion about personal naotionality i've chosen not to go through it all. apologies)
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What a load of bs, you all know that if England do win the you will be celebrating with everyone else. The constant JT hate is getting boring and is so hypocritical of a team with Joey Barton as captain, he has done much worse than JT. You complain about the players not having heart (not true), by why should they when they have such **** fans?
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Ok i was born in England and have a nan that is Spanish, i have never really been a big fan of International Football but prefer to see England do well as i also live here.
Maybe i should follow Spain though and do a bit of 'Glory hunting' as it seems i have a right.
After all Isn't Giggs playing for Wales because his Grandparent is Welsh.
I could even have played for Spain for that matter, how about that?Queens Park RangersNPower Champions 2010/2011
PREMIER LEAGUE 2011 - ETERNITY (Oh well got that wrong, we'll be back though)
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Originally posted by Kimimar0 View PostWhat a load of bs, you all know that if England do win the you will be celebrating with everyone else. The constant JT hate is getting boring and is so hypocritical of a team with Joey Barton as captain, he has done much worse than JT. You complain about the players not having heart (not true), by why should they when they have such **** fans?
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Originally posted by Kit View PostNot a chance I cannot stand Terry(particularly), Rooney or Ashley Cole and it would turn my stomach to think of them leading England to glory and i use to go to England games all the time up to about 5 years ago.
same...gone from a mad fanatical England fan to dont give a ****. Bunch of losers who also couldnt give a ****. Like someone else said if they assembled a team of Championship downwards English players who showed some passion and pride then they might win the fans back.
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Originally posted by Kimimar0 View PostWhat a load of bs, you all know that if England do win the you will be celebrating with everyone else. The constant JT hate is getting boring and is so hypocritical of a team with Joey Barton as captain, he has done much worse than JT. You complain about the players not having heart (not true), by why should they when they have such **** fans?
English players get away with blue murder on the pitch???? Barton anyone???? Clueless!!!!!!!
My father is Irish and I was christened a Catholic but I was brought up and born in this country! Therefore I will die for this country and to be honest feel sorry for the "I'm Irish, no I'm English, nope I'm Irish" type fans we seem to have on this board!
I don't support England because of who plays for them, I support them for the Badge and the fans!! Exactly like QPR!!!Last edited by Wrighty; 01-02-2012, 07:07 PM.
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If JT was in any other job he'd be on gardening leave as soon as he was charged with a crime, pending dismissal if found guilty. But because he's England's captain that makes him "special" and the FA have not only let him keep his job, the trial proper is conveniently after the tournament.
That's why I won't watch England. I don't respect most of the players and most of the people in the big beauracracy that is the FA. Somebody said that the players lack heart - as I'm not patriotic enough to support England just because I live here, I think that IS a reason not to support them. If they can't be bothered, why should I be bothered to watch them?Last edited by Jen42; 01-02-2012, 07:13 PM.SAR Season Ticket
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John Terry given the Spanish Archer by fans.
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Just walked in on BBC News reporting live from outside LR.... What's that all about FFS????
We ain't the accused; JT is. Take yer flipping cameras and pitch up outside Stamford Bridge or JT's pile in Surrey. Tainting the good name of our club by reporting on racism outside our gaff is bang out of order.
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