QPR may force Anton Ferdinand to shake John Terry's hand

[Bluehoop]

Cornish - can you not appreciate the huge difference between stereotyping and racism? Not that I'm saying either is right but they simply don't belong on the same charge sheet.

[paulmason]

Bushcelt are you Welsh? How much sleep do you lose over all the anti Welsh xenophobia that always goes on? Do you call the police every time somebody calls Cardiff a bunch of sheepshaggers? Can't say it bothers me too much at all (i'm 1/2 Welsh luckily for me).

Welsh people hate anything do do with England (apart from the money/benefits they get from Westminster), so why is it not OK for English people to hate anything to do with people who put sheep's heels in their wellies ?

[MattyRangers]

Welsh people hate anything do do with England (apart from the money/benefits they get from Westminster), so why is it not OK for English people to hate anything to do with people who put sheep's heels in their wellies ?

Quality!

[DeepcutHoop]

Welsh people hate anything do do with England (apart from the money/benefits they get from Westminster), so why is it not OK for English people to hate anything to do with people who put sheep's heels in their wellies ?

Why not generalise massively? That will help.

I'm half welsh, and none of my family hate the English. I'm sure there's some Welsh people who do, but don't tar everyone with that brush, just to justify your own hate..

Most people manage to crack on with their lives, not obsessively hating everyone that isn't them. Most people are quite affable to be honest.

[stainrodisalegend]

I must wonder about the hypocrisy of anti Welsh or Ginger haired jibes being considered perfectly acceptable and then everybody goes mental if somebody should target a non caucasian.

Plse, tell me you do understand the difference REALLY - and that you didn't fail your GCSE in history.

Just on a side issue I don't go a bundle on the casual xenophobia that has now moved on from black people to Welsh either. Can I just point out that our saviour, Mark Hughes, is a former star player and manager for Wales? Are you going to ask him if he shags sheep, too? All this reminds me of the story John Barnes tells of how all the Liverpool fans were making monkey noises throughout the match at opposition black players, then afterwards came up and asked Barnes for his autograph. When he pointed out the contradiction, one of the fans replied: "Yeah, don't worry mate, you're alright - you are our ni**er."

Never understand all this tribal hatred, but hey guess a lot of people must feel very threatened and insecure...

[Stanley]

Never understand all this tribal hatred, but hey guess a lot of people must feel very threatened and insecure...

Historically, Britain has always been a tribalistic, beer-swilling and warring island that always had to defend itself from foreign invaders - which would explain the feeling threatened and insecure.

No need for it nowadays of course, but that mindset has been passed down through the generations.

[Bigears]

The club as to take this stance as it needs to do all it can to try and defuse a very heated situation, because if they dont and it boils over they will be part of a FA / Police enquiry and if they have not done all what they can to defuse the situation they could be open to legal and FA punishment.

They cant make Anton shake his hand, but they will point out that this effected Anton's form more than Terry, he needs to do what is needed to try and calm the situation down as they dont want any trouble which will be highlight all over the world and drag on for ages.

Wether anyone on here likes it or not, the best thing for Anton to do, is rise above all this hatered, rise above JT and show he is the better man to do what he can to calm the situation down and shake hands.

Not a popular view on here I know but there is a far bigger picture that i feel needs to be said.

[qprbrisbanedivision]

For those in agreement with this idea....when was the last time you or your family were racially abused by a known bully..?

As for the welsh thing..thats ridiculous..no comparison at all

and as for the tribal defending the country thing...didnt our armies have large black / coloured only battalions of shoulders..?

[qprbrisbanedivision]

For those in agreement with this idea....when was the last time you or your family were racially abused by a known bully..?

As for the welsh thing..thats ridiculous..no comparison at all

and as for the tribal defending the country thing...didnt our armies have large black / coloured only battalions of shoulders..?

and soldiers......

[Cornish R]

Welsh people hate anything do do with England (apart from the money/benefits they get from Westminster), so why is it not OK for English people to hate anything to do with people who put sheep's heels in their wellies ?

Rather a racist comment and sweeping generalisation is it not? Welsh men have proudly fought and died for England throughout history. I'm Welsh and have always cheered England over anybody else (apart from when they play Wales or Cornwall of course), as do most of them apart from the inbreds up in the north, and they just hate everybody.

So you are seriously saying it's a stereotype and acceptable to call somebody a Welsh C@@t or a ginger c@@t, but not a Black c@t?

[Cornish R]

The club as to take this stance as it needs to do all it can to try and defuse a very heated situation, because if they dont and it boils over they will be part of a FA / Police enquiry and if they have not done all what they can to defuse the situation they could be open to legal and FA punishment.

They cant make Anton shake his hand, but they will point out that this effected Anton's form more than Terry, he needs to do what is needed to try and calm the situation down as they dont want any trouble which will be highlight all over the world and drag on for ages.

Wether anyone on here likes it or not, the best thing for Anton to do, is rise above all this hatered, rise above JT and show he is the better man to do what he can to calm the situation down and shake hands.

Not a popular view on here I know but there is a far bigger picture that i feel needs to be said.

here here

[Cornish R]

For those in agreement with this idea....when was the last time you or your family were racially abused by a known bully..?

As for the welsh thing..thats ridiculous..no comparison at all

and as for the tribal defending the country thing...didnt our armies have large black / coloured only battalions of shoulders..?

My friend i'm not too easily offended, banter doesn't bother me if it's not meant unkindly.

However, logically, somebody explain to me why it's different? Why you can insult a Welsh person or Ginger person or somebody's mother, but not a black person?

Double standards pure and simple.

Prejudice is prejudice whether against Blacks, Welsh, Gays or whatever.

[fazer vic]

yeah shake his hand then break his legs,

[Cornish R]

Cornish - can you not appreciate the huge difference between stereotyping and racism? Not that I'm saying either is right but they simply don't belong on the same charge sheet.

sheepsa@@ing welsh c@@t, f@@king ginger c@@t, nice stereotyping mate, charming. As a Welsh person i have as much right to be offended by somebody insulting my heritage as a black fella does. If you were ginger, maybe you wouldn't consider it harmless stereotyping then perhaps?

[BigDanShittu]

If you're a ##### then you're a #####. No need to put anything in front of it. You wouldn't say to John Terry "you white #####" so why you you call Anton a black one. Also Terry got it wrong Antons mixed race.