Why has buzsaky not featured more this season?

[rangerforevereastcote]

as great as buz is - he's not better than Ale...not too sure how people are putting an arguement to say otherwise...

No saying he's better , ale is fantastic on his left foot
If he relieves the ball on his right he always turns back to his left foot and in that moment the momentum gone as he doesn't trust his right foot
Yesterday we saw buzz play the ball whichever way he was facing which meant we were quicker in attack
Not a criticism of ale , there will hopefully be a place for Him on his return , just saying we were more direct yesterday cos buzz never had to check back

[BigDanShittu]

People saying Buz is a better player than Faurlin are you being serious? Faurlin has been our most consistent and been our best player this season. I like Buz but he has only had one good game don't get carried away. Also Look at the stats for the midfielders this season Ale has been the best player for us.

[rangerforevereastcote]

People saying Buz is a better player than Faurlin are you being serious? Faurlin has been our most consistent and been our best player this season. I like Buz but he has only had one good game don't get carried away. Also Look at the stats for the midfielders this season Ale has been the best player for us.

Not saying he's better saying his more direct can actually see those 2 playing together ale to win the ball and buzz to distribute

[BigDanShittu]

Know what you're saying mate. Some people on the thread though going on like Buz is the best player at the club which isnt true.

[Stanley]

I'd say at least 50% of posters on here are completely clueless when it comes to the ability to accurately judge a player, not to mention being notoriously fickle.

They were saying Buzz was finished at the club, as they were saying about Helgusson previously. Take most opinions here with a healthy dose of salt.

[rangerforevereastcote]

I'd say at least 50% of posters on here are completely clueless when it comes to the ability to accurately judge a player, not to mention being notoriously fickle.

They were saying Buzz was finished at the club, as they were saying about Helgusson previously. Take most opinions here with a healthy dose of salt.

Stan, not sure why you are so critical all the time for the first time in a long time were having debates as opposed to attacking each other
We all know what football fans are like we will all change opinions
Next week that life
Surely as a moderator on the board you should appreciate the conflicting opinions and debate , all leads to a health message board

[acricketer]

Faurlin is a defencive midfielder whilst Buzzy is an attacking player hence Faurlin being the top tackler in the division.

Spot on. Ale has been immense this season, his tackle count is phenomenal. Buz will definitely score more goals than Ale.

[Del]

Pace was less important back in the day but now you are playing against people who wouldn't look out of place on an athletics track. As I said I love Buz but the question is whether he will look so good when he loses possession and has to track back against Theo Walcott or Gareth Bale. As I say, would love him to cement a place in the team and much depends on who he has around him, so lets just wait and see.

That's not really fair example is it considering they are probably the 2 fastest players in the Premier League and 99% of opposing players would not be able to keep up.... Barton couldn't even keep pace with Carrick after giving him the ball the other week....

Not sure why people are comparing Buz and Ali anyway as they are totally different players with different strengths and weaknesses.

Ali is a pressing ball winning player, technically very good, has a good range of passing, retains possession well and can receive the ball in a crowded space without panicking, but is shocking at shooting.

Buz is technically very good also, also has a great range of passing and i would say has a greater ability to unlock a defence with a crucial ball, he also retains posession well and is comfortable receiving the ball in a crowded space, but he can also strike a beautiful shot from any distance and is a dead ball specialist.

The main differences really are that Faurlin will make more tackles and break up the opposing teams play more than BUz, and Buz will be far more likely to create or score goals.

I think more realistic comparisons in the squad are Faurlin and Derry as defensive, and Buz and Barton as more attack minded, however Barton can play a defensive role also, meaning he and Buz compliment eachother better the any other pair imo, other than potentially Buz and Faurlin if both fit, but NW never gave that a chance.

[Dazzer1977]

Pace was less important back in the day but now you are playing against people who wouldn't look out of place on an athletics track. As I said I love Buz but the question is whether he will look so good when he loses possession and has to track back against Theo Walcott or Gareth Bale. As I say, would love him to cement a place in the team and much depends on who he has around him, so lets just wait and see.

Finally the voice of reason! Premiership football is played at stupid speeds nowadays and against better opposition he'll be destroyed for pace! If this wasn't the case the Teddy Sheringham would still be playing.

This place seriously is getting worse. To think after one half decent performance against one of the worst if not worse premiership side and some muppets are now starting to say he's better than Faurlin. Totally clueless!

When Adel, Faurlin and Traore are back you'll struggle to see Buzz on the bench!

[Del]

Finally the voice of reason! Premiership football is played at stupid speeds nowadays and against better opposition he'll be destroyed for pace! If this wasn't the case the Teddy Sheringham would still be playing.

This place seriously is getting worse. To think after one half decent performance against one of the worst if not worse premiership side and some muppets are now starting to say he's better than Faurlin. Totally clueless!

When Adel, Faurlin and Traore are back you'll struggle to see Buzz on the bench!

If you want people on here to respect you or your opinions more, i'd suggest you try not to insult them on mass, by referring to them as muppets and saying they are clueless for daring to have a different opinion to you.

For starters most people aren't saying he's better than Faurlin, but a different type of player, with different stengths. Some of those strengths are far superior to Faurlin and compliment Bartons game, such as his ability in the final 3rd. Please don't try to suggest Faurlin is better at shooting than Buz....

Just because someone states something you agree with i wouldn't then insult others. As i said above, to use arguably the 2 fastest Prem players as an example and say Buz wouldn't keep up is a massively flawed argument anyway, as 99% of players wouldn't keep up, but i wouldn't expect you to understand that.

Finally, if prem football is all about pace as the be all and end all, why do you talk up Faurlin at all, as he's probably slower than Buzsaky, not to mention countless other central midfielders who have never been blessed with pace who have done fine. I suppose, as it doesn't fit with your "statement of fact", you'll tell us all Paul Scholes was a rubbish player becasue he wasn't quick?

Your Teddy Sheringham comment proves to everyone, if they didn't already know, you should really look in the mirror before suggesting others are clueless...

[Ginger Ninja]

If you want people on here to respect you or your opinions more, i'd suggest you try not to insult them on mass, by referring to them as muppets and saying they are clueless for daring to have a different opinion to you.

For starters most people aren't saying he's better than Faurlin, but a different type of player, with different stengths. Some of those strengths are far superior to Faurlin and compliment Bartons game, such as his ability in the final 3rd. Please don't try to suggest Faurlin is better at shooting than Buz....

Just because someone states something you agree with i wouldn't then insult others. As i said above, to use arguably the 2 fastest Prem players as an example and say Buz wouldn't keep up is a massively flawed argument anyway, as 99% of players wouldn't keep up, but i wouldn't expect you to understand that.

Finally, if prem football is all about pace as the be all and end all, why do you talk up Faurlin at all, as he's probably slower than Buzsaky, not to mention countless other central midfielders who have never been blessed with pace who have done fine. I suppose, as it doesn't fit with your "statement of fact", you'll tell us all Paul Scholes was a rubbish player becasue he wasn't quick?

Your Teddy Sheringham comment proves to everyone, if they didn't already know, you should really look in the mirror before suggesting others are clueless...

Hear hear.

[MattyRangers]

You'd think he'd just deflate her if that was the case, rather than pursue some childish anti Buz campaign..... It's really wearing a bit thin now.

[paulmason]

Why would an attacking midfielder or a CM have to track back with a left winger or a right winger ? The things people say on here is laughable, as I guess the RW and LW and RB and LB will just stand still watching.

PS. Would you want Adel to do the same or would you just not bother saying anything ?

[MattyRangers]

If you want people on here to respect you or your opinions more, i'd suggest you try not to insult them on mass, by referring to them as muppets and saying they are clueless for daring to have a different opinion to you.

For starters most people aren't saying he's better than Faurlin, but a different type of player, with different stengths. Some of those strengths are far superior to Faurlin and compliment Bartons game, such as his ability in the final 3rd. Please don't try to suggest Faurlin is better at shooting than Buz....

Just because someone states something you agree with i wouldn't then insult others. As i said above, to use arguably the 2 fastest Prem players as an example and say Buz wouldn't keep up is a massively flawed argument anyway, as 99% of players wouldn't keep up, but i wouldn't expect you to understand that.

Finally, if prem football is all about pace as the be all and end all, why do you talk up Faurlin at all, as he's probably slower than Buzsaky, not to mention countless other central midfielders who have never been blessed with pace who have done fine. I suppose, as it doesn't fit with your "statement of fact", you'll tell us all Paul Scholes was a rubbish player becasue he wasn't quick?

Your Teddy Sheringham comment proves to everyone, if they didn't already know, you should really look in the mirror before suggesting others are clueless...

Game, set and match.

[stainrodisalegend]

Think truth lies somewhere in the middle here. You still need to track back as a central midfielder. I can still remember all the groans when Buz lost the ball high up the park in one match at Loftus Rd earlier this season and he couldn't get back and the opposition scored - which was round about the time the majority of fans wrote him off, including I bet some who are now praising him to the skies. To tripple underline I wd love Buzzer to work out long term, if his sharpness, fitness and pace continues to grow. Maybe Man Utd can afford to carry a player of exceptional ball passing ability who has lost his legs (tho' he was quickly dropped, I noticed); its less clear whether a team fighting relegation can do so, particularly away from home against the big boys. I'm unclear how Buz, Adel, Ale and Barton can all work in the same team and think with Ale out we still need one tough, tackling defensive midfield player as don't think Derry up to the job.

But what Saturday has done other than lift our spirits and our points tally is left us puzzling how you are going to fit all these good players in the team rather than worrying about how you can possibly get a team out on the park as we did before Wigan. Its a problem few of us expected to have.