Warnock

[SullivanQPR]

Sullivan need to ask this as this t&c thing keeps getting brought up, is that really the only reason to stick with him cos we don't want to hark back to that era?
Noone coming on saying he's good tactically / strategically and has enough nous to keep us up

And to the poster saying 17th good yes it would be if was end of may were in
Jan and our slide getting steeper will be a miracle to survive now

I think he's been dealt an awful hand with owners and timing.
I think he deserves a full season, and a proper crack at a transfer window, which he never had.
I think Norwich & Swansea had a massive advantage being able to do a pre-season to organise and create a team for this league.
He's been unlucky with injuries.
I believe he DOES have the "nous" to keep us up.

He's NOT perfect, and has made mistakes. Taarabt today being one of them. Silly thing to do, which gives his critics a stick to beat him with.

I think sacking him now would be possibly the most stupid and embarrassing thing this club could ever do.
I think anyone who would sack him now is out of their tiny, slightly f*cked up mind.

That's how I feel. Others will disagree. That's fine.

[80sCasual]

Why did he take adel off when he was doing so well and could have been the difference in us gettIng a draw, we always seemed more threatening with him on. Who knows what could have happened.

[Ric-Roc]

Agree with Sullivan.

I'm behind Warnock but can't lie I'm frustrated massively with certain things.

Still better than sacking him. Let him bring some players in then we will judge him. And before anyone says it no its not to late. Other teams dropping points around us regularly.

Come on Neil sort out your stubborn ways & go back to 442 like we did against City & give this league a real good go.

[W7ranger]

Hughes would be great, proven premier league manager. Warnock has just not been getting it right. 2 points out of the last 24 available says it all unfortunately.

[rangerforevereastcote]

Sullivan I understand your points ref hand dealt BUT we have lost too
Many points this season already by being tactically naive , this is not a guy 40
And learning the ropes is in his 60s and won't change ,
If you offered a choice and know only hypothetically would you stick
With warnock and relegation or a change of manager and a chance of survival?

[SullivanQPR]

He had Barton on right Derry in middle and nonpace on team
With swp on bench, 1 up top , need we go on?

Barton often plays on the right. He did for Newcastle. Almost always.
Derry plays in the middle. How is that out of position?
SWP isn't 100% fit. Was rested at Swansea too. And being on the bench isn't out of position.

"nonpace on team"? I don't even know what that means.

Question the tactics, fine. But I asked who is being played out of position today.

So yes, you do need to go on...

[Connell10]

sullivan i understand your points ref hand dealt but we have lost too
many points this season already by being tactically naive , this is not a guy 40
and learning the ropes is in his 60s and won't change ,
if you offered a choice and know only hypothetically would you stick
with warnock and relegation or a change of manager and a chance of survival?

that last bit of your thread was im sorry to say dumb mate!

[SullivanQPR]

Sullivan I understand your points ref hand dealt BUT we have lost too
Many points this season already by being tactically naive , this is not a guy 40
And learning the ropes is in his 60s and won't change ,
If you offered a choice and know only hypothetically would you stick
With warnock and relegation or a change of manager and a chance of survival?

But I don't think sticking with Warnock means relegation. So it is impossible for me to answer that.

If you are certain of that, then it is relevant. To you.

All I'm saying is that I wouldn't sack him. You would. Ok. I get it.
This could go on all night, but you wont convince me. And vice versa.

[rangerforevereastcote]

Barton often plays on the right. He did for Newcastle. Almost always.
Derry plays in the middle. How is that out of position?
SWP isn't 100% fit. Was rested at Swansea too. And being on the bench isn't out of position.

"nonpace on team"? I don't even know what that means.

Question the tactics, fine. But I asked who is being played out of position today.

So yes, you do need to go on...

For us Barton not been as effective on right been a diff player in middle , can't compare the newcastle team better players all over
Derry should not be starting at home against Norwich ffs we need our midfielders to help in attack aswel

Swp looked fit to me both today and sat just gone
Non pace meant to be no pace stupid iphone, we had no pace today first half, look what we did to them second half with swp,

Personally think your letting your loyalty to warnock cloud your judgement on his performance

[rangerforevereastcote]

that last bit of your thread was im sorry to say dumb mate!

Maybe dumb but think that's where we are,
Warnock will take us down and a new manager may also but a new manager may lift us enough to save us

[Bluehoop]

I'm with you on this Sullivan. The team Warnock put out there today - you know the one with no pace and so many players out of position - well it was one nil up and in control before the sending off which totally changed the game. Warnock got his tactics right at half time too and the changes meant we were still the better side with ten men.
He can't be on the pitch to tell Ali not to stand and watch like a lemon for the second goal and who was it on the goal line that could have cleared it?
His one wrong decision was to bring of Adel although, even last season, if we went down to 10 men I would always say he would be the one sacrificed - except today he actually put a shift in - so yes that was wrong but the rest of it is just knee jerk for me.

He deserves a window where he can get his own players in and be judged on that - there are, without doubt, 3 teams worse than us in the league, so Warnock deserves a bit of faith. Oh and who do you put in...............because trust me, Mark Huges just aint the answer.

[rangerforevereastcote]

But I don't think sticking with Warnock means relegation. So it is impossible for me to answer that.

If you are certain of that, then it is relevant. To you.

All I'm saying is that I wouldn't sack him. You would. Ok. I get it.
This could go on all night, but you wont convince me. And vice versa.

Admire your loyalty , you would be a great boss to work for ( no sarcasm intended)

[rangerforevereastcote]

Blue hoop it's not jut about today , today was best performance for a while it's a culmination of events
If someone was coming on saying he needed to go that would be crazy , it's the sequence of games with same basic errors every game

[Bluehoop]

Blue hoop it's not jut about today , today was best performance for a while it's a culmination of events
If someone was coming on saying he needed to go that would be crazy , it's the sequence of games with same basic errors every game

We're just gonna have to agree to disagree - except for the tactics at Anfield which were plain wrong.

[rickyranger]

I think he's been dealt an awful hand with owners and timing.
I think he deserves a full season, and a proper crack at a transfer window, which he never had.
I think Norwich & Swansea had a massive advantage being able to do a pre-season to organise and create a team for this league.
He's been unlucky with injuries.
I believe he DOES have the "nous" to keep us up.

He's NOT perfect, and has made mistakes. Taarabt today being one of them. Silly thing to do, which gives his critics a stick to beat him with.

I think sacking him now would be possibly the most stupid and embarrassing thing this club could ever do.
I think anyone who would sack him now is out of their tiny, slightly f*cked up mind.

That's how I feel. Others will disagree. That's fine.

You think and believe I would rather deal in facts.

Obsession with Mackie and Derry.
Players brought in on deadline day looked good in first few games but under Warnock have gone backwards.
Public slatting of players Tarore for committing a foul, Falin for not!
Failure to change a game with sub or tactical change.
Poor team selection.
Actually making our team worse than the quality of the individual players within it.

Need I go on, everyone finds their level his was the Championship.