When is enough?

[QPRDave]

To be fair i didn't even want us to sack Dowie! Lol

I didn't want us to employ Dowie!

[qblockoompah]

Me neither dave ! Lol gave me two of my best nights ever as a ranger, villa away and utd away will be forever grateful for that. Not so grateful for Sheffield Utd away, Coventry away etc...........

[QPRDave]

Me neither dave ! Lol gave me two of my best nights ever as a ranger, villa away and utd away will be forever grateful for that. Not so grateful for Sheffield Utd away, Coventry away etc...........

[rangerforevereastcote]

To be fair i didn't even want us to sack Dowie! Lol

For the record neither did I!!

[Naarven Mankey]

Not to cause an argument merely a question, for those who believe in warnock and his tactics , when will enough be enough?
Are we saying regardless of whether we go down we " owe " warnock chance to get us back up ?
Or till the Wigan game and if we lose that?

At what point do we change it for the benefit of qpr Or no matter what happens it remains iwwt?

Like I said not an argument just wondering t what point you withdraw support ?

I think your point Rangers was much more than a question and has stirred a really good debate which is what a football forum is all about surely? To discuss matters with our beloved club.

I for one do not want us to get relegated but will back Warnock to the end. I don't believe changing the manager will do much good other than the initial knee jerk reaction that always happens when a team changes manager. By this i mean the team usually wins a couple of games under the new manager then they fall back into losing ways as before because simply the team and squad are not good enough. Two prime examples of this happening this season are Doncaster Rovers and Nottm Forest. Both changed managers mid season both started to win the first few games and then look at them now both struggling like hell cos the squads they have are not good enough.

The very last thing i want to happen is to get relegated but if this were to happen then for me personally i would want us to get relegated with Warnock still in charge. Why? Because he is the right man to bring us right back up again. Sometimes teams have to become yo-yo teams just to get established in the premier league. Examples of this over the last 10 years are Bolton, Sunderland, West Spam, Wolves, Newcastle & West Brom. Those teams in general stuck with the manager who got them relegated and were rewarded by him bringing them straight back up. Other teams have got relegated then gone into free fall such as ourselves, Bradford, Charlton, Sheff Weds, Southampton etc. And the reason? Too many managerial changes causing instability. We've been in the friggin dark ages too long and i don't ever wanna go back there again but im afraid if we start panicking and changing managers willy nilly then there's every chance we could end up back there again.

The reason we're struggling is because we don't have the strength in depth to change a game if it's not going to plan. Its as simple as that. True there's games we should have won such as Newcastle, Villa, West Brom and we should have got something out of other games too like Citeh at home but we can't be looking back on spilled milk. We have to look forward and get behind the team. Warnock only had 10 days to chuck a make shift squad together. Let's see what happens this transfer window. Then we maybe in a position to win games from the bench or even shut up shop if we need too. At present we have a thread bare squad who have done well to get us to this point so far. At the beginning of the season i would have settled for this at the half way point. Hell i would even settled for this at the end because it would mean we're safe.

The only time i would begin to worry was if he lost the dressing room. I know a few people on here have suggested that maybe happening and if so that is very worrying but if thats the case Warnock needs to get rid of the bad apple/s immediately and get everyone back on board again. If not then those of you hanging over Warnock with your ready made nooses are gonna be smiling cos you will have got your man and put us in managerial chaos again like the dark old days.

As for Hughes give me a break please. He couldn't even manage Man City with some of the best players in the world. No thanks. Warnock everyday of the week for me. IWWT!!!!

[rangerforevereastcote]

Naarven monkey that was a well thought response and I appreciate you took the op in the vein intended
Your point about going down with warnock a very good one as he would be ideal to get us back up , I did mention few weeks ago whether the yo yo thing was something we may be happy with ala west brom , like I said a well thought out response if I may would like to pose one question

Warnock has talked of one last hurrah and that he wanted to retire soon , if that retirement meant it would come with relegation cos he wouldnt wsnt to do the championship afain what would your thoughts be in that situation?

[Naarven Mankey]

Naarven monkey that was a well thought response and I appreciate you took the op in the vein intended
Your point about going down with warnock a very good one as he would be ideal to get us back up , I did mention few weeks ago whether the yo yo thing was something we may be happy with ala west brom , like I said a well thought out response if I may would like to pose one question

Warnock has talked of one last hurrah and that he wanted to retire soon , if that retirement meant it would come with relegation cos he wouldnt wsnt to do the championship afain what would your thoughts be in that situation?

Hi Rangers, i do believe that Warnocks a very proud man and he wouldn't want his swansong to be us getting relegated. I truly believe he will not settle until he has us established as a prem team. Just watch the man on the touchline. He's manic lol so for me there aint no way he will retire yet. He loves it too much and he still has a job to finish. If we finish mid table and well safe then he may consider retirement but believe me if we get relegated then its job not finished and he will continue.

[rangerforevereastcote]

Hi Rangers, i do believe that Warnocks a very proud man and he wouldn't want his swansong to be us getting relegated. I truly believe he will not settle until he has us established as a prem team. Just watch the man on the touchline. He's manic lol so for me there aint no way he will retire yet. He loves it too much and he still has a job to finish. If we finish mid table and well safe then he may consider retirement but believe me if we get relegated then its job not finished and he will continue.

Fair response !!! Isn't that what is great about footie debate ? No ones knows who's going to Be right for months

[Naarven Mankey]

Fair response !!! Isn't that what is great about footie debate ? No ones knows who's going to Be right for months

Too true mate and a great debate but whatever happens we need to back our team now more than ever. The booing of our own players by some of our fans is the very last thing we need right now. Yes we need this transfer window but more importantly we need unity and the fans total backing of the team to the bitter end. U R'sssssssss

Off to put me flat cap on and walk the Whippet.

[rangerforevereastcote]

Mate I'll reiterate I will never boo
Our own players and when I'm in The stadium I'm supporting my club regardless ,


You r'ssssssssssssssss

[maverick69]

Naarven Mankey;

Good stuff

[Naarven Mankey]

Mate I'll reiterate I will never boo
Our own players and when I'm in The stadium I'm supporting my club regardless ,


You r'ssssssssssssssss

Good on yer mate lets get the ball rolling tomorrow with 3 points!!!

[Naarven Mankey]

Naarven Mankey;

Good stuff

Cheers mate

[rangerforevereastcote]

Good on yer mate lets get the ball rolling tomorrow with 3 points!!!

[SeanInOz]

Warnock inspired our promotion lat year and deserves his time to enjoy the Premiership in full (the whole season what ever happens).

In saying the above, I am very proud of how the team has performed and think Warnock continues to do an excellant job especially considering circumstances he was in. We are 6 points from the top 10!

Its exciting and I can fully understand why Warnock states he is enjoying it even when we are beaten because I feel exactly the same.

We went to Arsenal and matched them. They couldn't wait for that final whistle.

We are doing what I wanted - we are competing in every match and building as we go.