Warnock

[singingranger]

Relegation is not an option but it is possible, Amit has said we can handle it if worst case it happens - we can win 7 more games that wil keep us up.

[brightonr]

Kenny when fit
Cerny when fit
Young
Traore
Barton
SWP
Foarlin
Ferdinand
HH in recent form only
Tarabt when in right frame of mind only
the rest very poor prem standard waiting to be found out
now tell me how can anybody find a match winning sub out of whats left from those not mentioned

Warnock's job is a bit more involved than making a match winning substitution. The last one of those he made, was when Traore came off against Sunderland, putting Connelly at left back. It won them the game.
He has had ample opportunity in my opinion to get these players performing as a cohesive unit. As yet, he hasn't done it. Maybe you disagree, which is perfectly acceptable. Hopefully, you will be proved right and wherever we finish, we can all bow and scrape to the man who signed Rob Hulse and Leon Clarke. Maybe his wife liked them.

[Sotonsuperhoop]

Relegation is not an option but it is possible, Amit has said we can handle it if worst case it happens - we can win 7 more games that wil keep us up.

Amit may well have said that we can handle relegation, but how long will it take us to get back up? Most of the teams in the Championship who were chasing us last season are well off the pace this season, so don't expect us to bounce straight back up should we fall.

[singingranger]

We have no divine right to stay up or go back up if we drop!
Warnock got us up and has attracted players quality premiership ones, but we are very weak in certain areas if we address this we should be ok I think.

Barton and SWP have looked at times very good but on average one game in two or maybe one game in 3, If they become more consistent which with their experience I expect will happen and we tighten up at the back which I expect will happen and sign a goal scorer which I expect will happen few others keep Adel who is looking better we have every chance.

[loftlag]

Warnock's job is a bit more involved than making a match winning substitution. The last one of those he made, was when Traore came off against Sunderland, putting Connelly at left back. It won them the game.
He has had ample opportunity in my opinion to get these players performing as a cohesive unit. As yet, he hasn't done it. Maybe you disagree, which is perfectly acceptable. Hopefully, you will be proved right and wherever we finish, we can all bow and scrape to the man who signed Rob Hulse and Leon Clarke. Maybe his wife liked them.

Oh dear is this the same Rob hulse We all thought was going to hit at 20 goals a season and lead the line bringing in other players to score and the same Rob Hulse that people said Paladiini signed
And then there's Clark signed on a free warnock admitted was a gamble ,
And the dire mistake of letting a one paced player in Gorks go who would have been foumd out as the one paced Gabidon was yesterday for Arsenals goal:roll by RVP

[Rich]

Agree,he is not up to the job and way too many constantly make excuses for him,"sir" Neil will get us relegated if left in charge

You forgot to change your avatar mate

[QPRDave]

The point I was attempting to make, albeit badly, is that NW still brought in these players. He let Gorkss go, but kept Connelly. He was happy to leave Ephraim out of the 25, but happy to have Puncheon, who he doesn't play. Is he injured now also, or just not very good?
If you think that Warnock has performed to an acceptable standard so far, by this I mean team selections, tactics, substitutions, defensive coaching and a whole lot more, then good for you. I have not criticised him up until now as I felt he should be given time to work with what he had. Same as I feel he should be backed with funds in January to complete whatever he feels he has started. But, if he's done his job well, these new players should all be here within a week, not us watching us scramble about for the scraps that nobody else wants towards the end of the month.
HH is far better than Danny Graham, who isn't exactly banging them in is he? I assume thats who you were talking about.
As I said, I like the man and hope he succeeds, but on current evidence, I'm not at all convinced. Sorry for having a different view. Hope I'm wrong.

Brighton I'm surprised at you really am, normally so sensible.
Gabbidon, Bothroyd, Cambell, Dyer, Perone were all signed before any money was available, and Murphy.As for puncheon don't know but I do know that a hellva lot of posters were delighted hogan got left out ,I was not one and I'm not saying you were either.
It is all opinions but I can present a fact to you regarding your defensive coaching comment, Swansea have let in 23 goals which is excellent,... but have only managed 3pts away from home
QPR have let in 33 goals
Norwich have let in 34 goals, ...yes one more than us!
So does that make Lambert a better manager?
The difference is they are scoring goals we are missing them.Their defensive weakness is covered up by that.Point is alot of teams are struggling to keep out the goals, and 10 of ours have come in 2 games

[brightonr]

Oh dear is this the same Rob hulse We all thought was going to hit at 20 goals a season and lead the line bringing in other players to score and the same Rob Hulse that people said Paladiini signed
And then there's Clark signed on a free warnock admitted was a gamble ,
And the dire mistake of letting a one paced player in Gorks go who would have been foumd out as the one paced Gabidon was yesterday for Arsenals goal:roll by RVP

Did you thnk Hulse was a good signing then?

Goodness me.

[singingranger]

Lol - terrible signing! Sack warnock based on the fact he got us by spending 3.5m

[loftlag]

Did you thnk Hulse was a good signing then?

Goodness me.

NO but we all wanted him signed we all thought He was made for us

[superhoop67]

NO but we all wanted him signed we all thought He was made for us

couldn't get in Derby squad at the time

[QPRDave]

couldn't get in Derby squad at the time

He was injured and I remember just about to man posters loving that we had got Hulse and not Walters

[loftlag]

Did you thnk Hulse was a good signing then?

Goodness me.

NO but we all wanted him signed we all thought He was made for us

[brightonr]

Brighton I'm surprised at you really am, normally so sensible.
Gabbidon, Bothroyd, Cambell, Dyer, Perone were all signed before any money was available, and Murphy.As for puncheon don't know but I do know that a hellva lot of posters were delighted hogan got left out ,I was not one and I'm not saying you were either.
It is all opinions but I can present a fact to you regarding your defensive coaching comment, Swansea have let in 23 goals which is excellent,... but have only managed 3pts away from home
QPR have let in 33 goals
Norwich have let in 34 goals, ...yes one more than us!
So does that make Lambert a better manager?
The difference is they are scoring goals we are missing them.Their defensive weakness is covered up by that.Point is alot of teams are struggling to keep out the goals, and 10 of ours have come in 2 games

All fair comments Dave.

As I said, not calling for his head or having a pop for no reason.

Just pointing out that the guy has made some seriously bad buys, team selections, substitutions etc. Of course he cannot be expected to get everything right, but I just happen to be of the opinion that he has got more things wrong this season than he should have.

And my original point was simply that one cannot make excuses forever about what happened until August. Lets see if he can rectify all these things with the January window as most hoped he would. Having seen the quality of some of the teams this season, I really do feel that we should have more to show from the games we've played.

[QPRDave]

Yeah fair enough mate I'll take that on board as well.
There are posters I feel anyway that "enjoy" a defeat more than a victory, you as I said are not one of these.But I do think people seem to jump on the band wagon and agree with
sweeping points in a post and yet only days before were saying the opposite.
I also don't think changing the manager will guarantee safety, and yes as I have said it is all opinions and yes I'm not necessarily right either