FAO Adel Taarabt Haters...

[Ric-Roc]

Brisbane who needs to calm down? I made a simple point.

Lay off the drugs

[Jeffro]

Definitely.
What you see much better if you're at the game, rather than watching on TV, is what AT does off the ball -- drawing players and making moves which leave the opposition undecided on what to do, because, given that free role, he pops up in unexpected places, and they really don't know whether to track him or leave it to the nearest men to pick him up.
His passes, whilst not always into a danger area, are often as unpredictable as he is, and have the oppo scrambling to cover areas they didn't have covered; lots of those passes at Swansea also were part of some nice one touch moves.
Added to that a 98% pass completion rate, and it shows why he is such an asset.
The increased level of cooperation between him and Barton 2nd half was also a big step forward for both of them -- Barton looks better for having a better player to link up with and perhaps it might be the key to a more successful 2nd half to this season.

Very good points Swanners and that is the thing.
Adel draws players in and he is so strong which either a) takes pressure off the defewnce with the ball coming straight back or b) buys us a foul to re group.

Anyone who cannot see the marked difference with him playing must be mad.

[Dale]

Brisbane trying to write essays but the poor old fella is clueless

[Ric-Roc]

He is the new water buffalo

[SammyKojoe]

i dont know mate, the one he put up earlier was diffrent....thats what i was asking..is that the whole thing or just the completed?

calm down pal..it is possible for someone to have a diffent opinion from yopu and stil be correct....

Course everyone is entitled to an opinion. But with respect those opinions of people at games hold more weight than those that watch it on tv with shrimp on the barbie and a can of the amber nectar. I was at the game and watched it on tv and they are different.

You even state below " we've created plenty of chanceas without him in MOST other games, just not scored."

That is rubbish! Our problem has been a lack of creativity or cutting edge and as such we are not creating many chances. So many times in games we get to the final third or we have a quick break and we look clueless or scared! We just go sideways or backwards and end up losing the ball.

If we had created all these chances and not scored HH would be slated every week. Mackie, SWP and Barton would be praised most games for performances and creating these chances that our forwards cannot put away. Believe me this is not the case. Mackie, SWP, Barton are getting stick week after week for not performing or creating enough.

I just cannot understand how you want to move Tarbs on. He is by far and away our most skillful and creative player. We willl score and create more with him in the side. The guy always wants and demands the ball and draws 2 maybe 3 players towards him leaving space for others to try and exploit. That in itself is a premiership quality that nobody else in our side has.

[Ric-Roc]

Course everyone is entitled to an opinion. But with respect those opinions of people at games hold more weight than those that watch it on tv with shrimp on the barbie and a can of the amber nectar. I was at the game and watched it on tv and they are different.

You even state below " we've created plenty of chanceas without him in MOST other games, just not scored."

That is rubbish! Our problem has been a lack of creativity or cutting edge and as such we are not creating many chances. So many times in games we get to the final third or we have a quick break and we look clueless or scared! We just go sideways or backwards and end up losing the ball.

If we had created all these chances and not scored HH would be slated every week. Mackie, SWP and Barton would be praised most games for performances and creating these chances that our forwards cannot put away. Believe me this is not the case. Mackie, SWP, Barton are getting stick week after week for not performing or creating enough.

I just cannot understand how you want to move Tarbs on. He is by far and away our most skillful and creative player. We willl score and create more with him in the side. The guy always wants and demands the ball and draws 2 maybe 3 players towards him leaving space for others to try and exploit. That in itself is a premiership quality that nobody else in our side has.

Absolutely spot on mate. He just rambles & most of the time is not worth the effort replying.

Paul Mason at least goes to games & makes valid points this fella as you say watches tv & thinks he's Alan Hansen.

[stainrodisalegend]

As regulars know I'm very much with Ric Roc and Dale in the Adel argument but with my mod hat on I wd ask posters to criticise the points Brisbane makes, not the man. Cheers.

[qprbrisbanedivision]

It is undeniable that with Taraabt in the side, the ball moves forward more and with more fluency, without him, watching a static Joey Barton and Faurlin doing all the midfield work, we simply do not have a clue.
We are a better attacking side with Adel, and simply more creative.

Mate, thats why i watched the game twice before commenting...Its true being at the game you pick things up that are not shown on the TV but you also miss things that can be replayed over again in seconds....

Would love to see his graphic for say the Fulham game?

we (over here) obviously dont see all Adel's off the ball work and apparently its quite a lot..Makes me wonder why he was getting so much stick at the start of the season.

Again, if we are creative, then why arent we winning games?.

As for him being a good prem player, i'm sorry but the jury is still out and i personally doubt it...BUT i would love to see him go on a scoring spree and keep us up....

End of the season will telll all

And just a point to mention, just because you dont go to the game really has no relationship to whether you are a true supporter, know anything about football etc....
i'd go as far as to say that my coverage of the actual passage of play is clearer than many at the game. Plus w get the replays long before those at the game, so can comment after seeing incidents many times.
When i was at LR a few months ago i had to watch the big screen to see what was going on the other end of the pitch

Anyway..heres to hoping..!

[qprbrisbanedivision]

Brisbane who needs to calm down? I made a simple point.

Lay off the drugs

OK darling..i forgot that no-one isallowed to have a diffrent opinion from you!!

Dont do drugs mate...for kids

I'd suggest you lay off them though

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[qprbrisbanedivision]

He is the new water buffalo

Are you Dale's dad or what?

[qprbrisbanedivision]

Course everyone is entitled to an opinion. But with respect those opinions of people at games hold more weight than those that watch it on tv with shrimp on the barbie and a can of the amber nectar. I was at the game and watched it on tv and they are different.

You even state below " we've created plenty of chanceas without him in MOST other games, just not scored."

That is rubbish! Our problem has been a lack of creativity or cutting edge and as such we are not creating many chances. So many times in games we get to the final third or we have a quick break and we look clueless or scared! We just go sideways or backwards and end up losing the ball.

If we had created all these chances and not scored HH would be slated every week. Mackie, SWP and Barton would be praised most games for performances and creating these chances that our forwards cannot put away. Believe me this is not the case. Mackie, SWP, Barton are getting stick week after week for not performing or creating enough.

I just cannot understand how you want to move Tarbs on. He is by far and away our most skillful and creative player. We willl score and create more with him in the side. The guy always wants and demands the ball and draws 2 maybe 3 players towards him leaving space for others to try and exploit. That in itself is a premiership quality that nobody else in our side has.

Mate, since if got back here a few months ago, the undelying current of a lot of threads has been why didnt we win..Norwich and the "smaller "teams..firstly it was NW's fault, then the strikers, now are we saying its the Midfields fault we havent won as many games....first time i've read that on any site, but i'm willing to take your word for it....
Again, he is by far our most skillful player (as I have stated 4 times now i think?!) but what i said is i dont think he is a good premiership player! Big diffrence......!!

If we're more creative with him then why aint he playing...?
again HR couldnt get him to play CONSISTENTLY well in the prem, do we think NW can..? i'm not sure

But as i'm obviously not allowed to have a diffrent view to those that think he is the messiah....Lets all say he will save us all and Tarbs we all love you..and we'll hold your hand when you are down.....

getting very bored now..dinner time..be back to laugh at more soon..love you all and god bless Tarbs....!

[qprbrisbanedivision]

As regulars know I'm very much with Ric Roc and Dale in the Adel argument but with my mod hat on I wd ask posters to criticise the points Brisbane makes, not the man. Cheers.

personally mate i ont mind it as its fun for the kids, but its up to you how to run the board..

I'm a big boy now and a bit of critisim aint going to bother me..especially when tarbs is found out again..?

Its your call mate !!

[qprbrisbanedivision]

I also got a lot of stick pre season when i said Derry wouldn't cut it in the prem...those people are evry quiet now also..

Oh well..

roll on Jan......

[Dale]

personally mate i ont mind it as its fun for the kids, but its up to you how to run the board..

I'm a big boy now and a bit of critisim aint going to bother me..especially when tarbs is found out again..?

Its your call mate !!

Taarabt found out again?

How can he be found out again when he proved you wrong already?

He proved the last few games he ain't a championship player but your hoping he fails just so you can be proven right

Even Young can see his a great player but you still carry on trying to prove a point that's been crushed

[qprbrisbanedivision]

Taarabt found out again?

How can he be found out again when he proved you wrong already?

He proved the last few games he ain't a championship player but your hoping he fails just so you can be proven right

Even Young can see his a great player but you still carry on trying to prove a point that's been crushed

Mate, get the jist of the orum..Its all about opinions and mine differ greatly to yours...

i haven't slated you for your opinions(although you did me) and i have stated what i believe personally..That Tarbs was a migician in the Championship, but I PERSONALLY dont think he can cut it in the prem..I stil believe that..for what ever reason he's had 1 good game all season against a previously Championship side....does that make sense?
Now disagree all you like...but we wont know for certain until further into the season if he is a good prem player or not..do you agree?
Mate if he turns into a super star I'lll happily donate 20 quid to any charity you wish....will you do the same if he fails?


Again..he is our most skillfull player, but i'm yet to be convinced....

all your repeated reasoning and somewhat boring digs wont change that..

Move on mate; and lets see what happens...shall we?
of course if you want to continue arguing, then thats up to you..personally i have better things to do at the moment.

again.i honestly wish you no ilol feeling and you need to accept that sometimes people dont agree.

I hope this is as straight forward as it can be and makes sense?

Hope you got Arsenal tickets and have a good one if you go..

speak soon no doubt