I can't believe what i'm reading?!

[Mattyqpr]

Have to ask questions about selection and tactics and to be fair what was starting the second half with only 10 men about!

Seriously you can't be blaming Warnock for Gabbidon not being ready?

[stan_bowles]

Haha i knew that would come back! It's December, we're not even half way through the fixtures! Half the league is within 6 points of relegation!

I'd fancy us to beat a boring, negative Swansea side yeah! Have you forgotten Boxing Day last season? Probably! Arsenal i couldn't care less about, if we nick something brilliant, it's been done before and will be done again! Sunderland and Norwich at home could return 6 points. Give me a shout before the MK Dons game, if we've lost all 4 games and not deserved anything i'd start to worry, i predict a return of at least 6 points though, but i suppose thats not good enough for a team returning to the best league in the world after 15 years!?

Mate,take off your blinkers and stop posting as a fan.Try looking at things realisticaly.

The team and manager ain't good enough.

[stan_bowles]

I'd fancy us to beat a boring, negative Swansea side yeah!

That would be the team with the most clean sheets in the league then?.

Sounds easy.

[Gerryhatrick]

Over the last 35 years we have had a rollercoaster ride through the divisions, and it hurt a lot of fans. We fear those days coming back unless we grasp this chance to stay in the big time, and it causes extremes of emotion and passion, so then we get OTT reactions like many of tonights threads when we lose to club where the entire value of our team couldn't buy Rooney ffs.

Bit of perspective is needed. I thought the team effort was pretty good from most players, but MU totally outclassed us and quite rightly too because we have a lot to learn. They were simply too good for us.

If either HH's or DJ's volley chances on the edge of the six yard box could have been converted who knows what might of happened. They were good chances to score, and Rooney or Hernandes probably wouldn't of missed them.

[Mattyqpr]

Mate,take off your blinkers and stop posting as a fan.Try looking at things realisticaly.

The team and manager ain't good enough.

You need to be realistic mate, not me. Seriously what do you want? Don't you remember going to Scunthorpe in April and getting beat 4-1? Leicester and getting beat 5-0?

[loftlag]

It's not about the last 2 games mate.It's about getting battered by teams below us like Fulham and Bolton.

Yes Bolton,a team who can't buy a win if their lives depended on it.

You know that Bolton was befor we had Young Traore Ferdinand Barton SWP ,and was still the better side 1st half but fell apart after letting 4 sloppy goals
but even the crap sides in prem are better what we have played for 15 years

[stan_bowles]

You need to be realistic mate, not me. Seriously what do you want? Don't you remember going to Scunthorpe in April and getting beat 4-1? Leicester and getting beat 5-0?

What i want is a manager,who game after game,makes rubbish substituitions,to sort his fooking act out.

Warnock has always failed in the Prem.Fact.

We need an experienced manager who can handle top flight football.

[ProtestR]

What i want is a manager,who game after game,makes rubbish substituitions,to sort his fooking act out.

Warnock has always failed in the Prem.Fact.

We need an experienced manager who can handle top flight football.

"Warnock has always failed in the Prem.Fact"

mmmm - not entirely sure dismissing a bloke based on 1 previous season in the premier is wise...

Some people really need to get a grip - some serious toys out of pram on this site tonight..

[frapps]

Still if we not spent money in august we would be worse off than bolton

[rangerforevereastcote]

Mate has anyone questioned why he has only
Ever had one season in prem?? Marty do you really think
Well get 6 off Swansea and sunderland?? I'll wager £20 with you
Now

[frapps]

Why not?

[moon_safari]

Mate has anyone questioned why he has only
Ever had one season in prem?? Marty do you really think
Well get 6 off Swansea and sunderland?? I'll wager £20 with you
Now

have a day off will you, warnock is the same guy who got us up with the crazy clowns causing the biggest circus youve ever seen in football (4 year plan proves that)
he was rushed into showing his hand before the start of the season because of tonys late arrival.
not overlee concerned about our form at the mo just played pool and manu 280mill of players between them!! trust warnock to keep us up with his players he signs in january!!

[rangerforevereastcote]

Why not?

Not sure if q aimed at me

Sunderland new manager one down 1.-0 to a good totenham team and with
Martin oneil they are getting new manager bounce, we have also only won 1 game at home think it has draw all over it
Swansea lost 1 game at hOme (man u) and let in 2 goals all season one o which an own goal , we don't score enough so again a 0-0 looks most likely

[frapps]

Great well done moon safari one of a few talking sense tonight

[TBLOCKRANGER]

Haha i knew that would come back! It's December, we're not even half way through the fixtures! Half the league is within 6 points of relegation!

I'd fancy us to beat a boring, negative Swansea side yeah! Have you forgotten Boxing Day last season? Probably! Arsenal i couldn't care less about, if we nick something brilliant, it's been done before and will be done again! Sunderland and Norwich at home could return 6 points. Give me a shout before the MK Dons game, if we've lost all 4 games and not deserved anything i'd start to worry, i predict a return of at least 6 points though, but i suppose thats not good enough for a team returning to the best league in the world after 15 years!?

Totally agree.
For 15 yrs we were absolutely sh** and we must never forget.
All the premiership teams we face are established who have been able to buy players on good wages for a number of seasons. Out of the three teams that went up last season we were probably the least well prepared to go into the premiership, Swansea had been perfecting the art of playing boring football for a number of years and Norwich had been a premiership team relatively recently. Both IMHO were better prepared for the premiership than us. We were basically a team going nowhere when NW arrived and since then we've
rocketed on a crappy space ship. We've had the steepest learning curve and I think we've done a lot better than expected.
Promotion was our first goal, our second is to build a team and for that NW needs time and cash.
People appear to make out that our return should be heralded like Newcastles return to the top flight and if we under achieve complete changes need to be made. How can we under achieve from where we have come from