Some posters on here need a good look at themselves

[Sotonsuperhoop]

you moaning about moaners?

As I'm so positive most of the time I feel left out sometimes!

[W12_Ranger]

Read bits of it the title of the thread says enough to me.

Personally think supporters have every right to be critical of the manager, players and performances. I've seen enough of what we are capable off in a short space of time with our new squad against the likes of Newcastle, Villa and Wolves to know the likes of the Fulham game and first half against Spurs are totally unacceptable.

As for Adel being a confidence player this a new one to me and is total ****** in my view. Adel is far to arrogant to be a confidence player, he is playing s.hite and his attitude the past month has been embarrassing. I love Adel I think he is a truly great talent but I've had enough and to be honest unless we see some sort of change in his attitude on a biblical scale we are going to be revisiting this debate on a continual basis until he leaves and having defended him constantly for 3 seasons I wish he'd grow up and stop acting like a complete w@nk@.

As for Warnock he is long enough in the tooth to have his perfomance as manager scrutinised, greater tactical nous from him would have seen us have a brilliant start not just an ok start having dropped points against Villla, Newcastle and Blackburn.

[Bigears]

Sotonsuperhoops, i have to agree with most of the points you make (Faurlin being class, Mackie brings other qualities to the team which are needed as a team is a blend of differnt talents not just one), however one point were you ask for NW to rota our key players like Sir Alex even though i agree with the sentiment, i cant agree with at this stage in the season.

The reason is we dont have a good enough squad, we lose one or two of these players (though injury or if they have a bad game) and it shows as the other players just are not up to this standard yet. I understand they are still learning and would never moan as I cant fault anyone for effort but until January comes and we can hopefuly bring some more players in our current squad simply dosnt have the quality in depth to do this rotation.

[gator]

Bloody hell, if you can hear us from Canada, we must be loud !!!

Yes, loud and clear! An added bonus of being promoted to the EPL is all the games are shown here now, I crank up the surround sound and wish I was at Loftus Road with you lot!

[80sCasual]

Some on here may call themselves 'posters' but really they're nothing more than a a flimsy bit of a4 paper.

[Hertford Hoop]

People on here need to wise up and face the bare facts about our team, having read the various threads since Sunday fans really need a reality check.

We are 12th in the league after 10 games with 12 points. A point per game usually ensures premier league status come the end of the season. Even with no points from our next two games (which most people are predicting) we will still be on course.

At the start of August every single one of us would have taken this position after a quarter of the season.

Adel is a confidence player and last season NW used him to his best ability bowing to his tantrums and behaviour but getting the best out of him. Adel was a big player in a small team and quite rightly shone and got us where we are today. However, the premier league is a different kettle of fish to the championship and to date Adel has not risen to the challenge. Whether this is because NW is not focusing on him as much, or that Adel is not as good as we want him to be at this level yet who knows? All I do know is that we as a team cannot continue to progress if he continues to play the way he did at Spurs.

J Barton, LY, Amand T, SWP and Anton F are much bigger players than Adel and Adel needs to learn that not everything will go his way now. I don’t know if he is playing to specific orders but I do know he is a shadow of what he was last season. Maybe he’s not yet good enough for the PL and we are too inpatient?

IMO NW needs to take a leaf out of Sir Alex’s book and rotate our top players more. We seem to set out each game with the same 4-2-3-1 formation that served us so well last season, but the premier league is a lot different. It clearly does not work for every game. Adel should be used in the free role in games against lesser opposition to the top 4. We are unlikely to repeat the Chelsea result against the likes of Man U and City, so why persist with this formation. The second half at Spurs where we played 4-4-2 proves we can mix it with the best, and believe me Spurs played the best football against us that I have seen this season including the performances of Man City.

Remember Liverpool lost 4-0 at Spurs, so in comparison our result wasn’t too bad. At 2-1 we could quite easily have gone on to make it 2-2 and final result may have panned out differently

When we play 4-4-2 Adel should not start, but when we play against the likes of WBA, etc give him the free role he was so successful in last season.
Akos Buzsaky is not fit and will have an operation very soon so he hasn’t fallen out with NW as some posters would believe.

Faurlin has been our best player by far this season but I now see some on here are slating him. Ray Wilkins comes in for stick from people who don’t rate him or his opinions but to play for England, Man Utd, Chelsea etc you must have something about you. He has done the commentary for Sky on both our last two games and has stated that Faurlin is bar far our best player. He knows when to slow things down, when to keep possession of the ball and when to increase the intensity of play. If only we had two or three more like him? Players like Smith, and Buzsaky fall into this category too.

People are now getting on the back of Derry and even Mackie. These players, although not blessed with an abundance of skill, are vital to our team. Mackie’s persistence in the chasing of lost causes lead to the two or three corners at Spurs that ultimately lead to our goal. A balance of these types of players along with players such as Faurlin and Barton is what we need, so get off their backs.

We are new to this, NW has little experience of the PL,Tony, Amit and Co are new to this too, so as fans we need to get behind our club from top to bottom. We need to stop slating every player each time he makes a mistake. I think only Luke Young, Heidar and Anton are the only three players so far to not be berated on this site.

Get behind the team, it’s a learning curve and we are doing just fine, so get behind QPR or ship out. FFS we have waited 15 or so years for this and we all know that TF will make funds available in January.

Sit back and enjoy the ride, savour every moment as you never know what’s around the corner and be careful what you wish for.

Come on you Superhoopsaaaah!

Very good post

[silvercue]

So who are these posters you talk about?

If you are going to rant about the ranters then put their names on the table.

It is a message board - intended for debate. If we are not allowed to say anything that doesn't scream of positivity and thanks, we may as well not come back.

[QPRDave]

W12 Ranger Adel is imo which is the opposite to yours,a confidence player.
You say he's just arrogant,but for me that goes hand in hand, because he has been asked to play for the team more,and I don't think he understands what his role is, he's therefore
lost form and confidence.
Think about it when he is on form he likes to tease and make the opposition look stupid,and be arrogant with it,but if he can't or isn't doing that then he loses his confidence,
and to be honest if he is just arrogant as you say, you need to be very self-confident to carry it off

[MattyRangers]

Great post mate... Although I have to confess Im with Mellow in that I didnt quite read it all

[qprbrisbanedivision]

Yeh I agree although I didn't read it all.